Author Topic: Kerry Military Records - 20 Unofficial Kills (Read 2093 times)

strk · « **on:** April 21, 2004, 08:02:43 PM »

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0421041kerry2.html

Yeager · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:06:05 PM »

Okay...Kerry is my HERO

feel better?

Eagler · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:09:53 PM »

he's my "war hero" too

LANDSLIDE BUSH !!!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:16:56 PM »

So strk, you want a murderer for president?

strk · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:17:56 PM »

I think the GOP is gonna regret making his records an issue

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Request_For_Swiftboat_Duty.pdf
(Kerry's REQUEST to go to Nam and serve on Swift Boats)

Compare Bush* assignment records - checked "do not volunteer for overseas"
http://discover.npr.org/photo_gallery/photo_gallery_display.jhtml?gallery=1676511

On Feb. 28, 1969, Kerry's craft and two other boats came under heavy fire from the riverbanks. Kerry ordered his units to turn into the ambush and sent men ashore to charge the enemy. According to the records, an enemy soldier holding a loaded rocket launcher sprang up within 10 feet of Kerry's boat and fled. Kerry leapt ashore, ran down the man and killed him.

Kerry and his men chased or killed all the enemy soldiers in the area, captured enemy weapons and then returned to the boat only to come under fire from the opposite bank as they began to pull away. Kerry again beached his boat and led a party ashore to pursue the enemy, and they successfully silenced the shooting. Later, the boats were again under fire, but Kerry initiated a heavy response that killed 10 Viet Cong and wounded another with no casualties to his own men.

He won the Silver Star "for gallantry and intrepidity in action" that day. Two weeks later, Kerry was engaged in another fire fight that resulted in a Bronze Star for heroic achievement and the third Purple Heart that would result in his reassignment out of Vietnam.

Kerry was commanding one of five boats on patrol on March 13, 1969, when two mines detonated almost simultaneously -- one beneath another boat and one near Kerry's craft. Shrapnel hit Kerry's buttocks, and his right arm was bleeding from contusions, but he rescued a boatmate who had been thrown overboard in the blast and was under sniper fire from both banks. Kerry then directed his crew to return to the other damaged craft and tow it to safety.

In April 1969, Kerry was sent stateside to the Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet, in Brooklyn, N.Y. On Nov. 21, 1969, Kerry requested that he be released from his commitment to serve actively until August 1970 so that he could run for Congress.

He was promoted to full lieutenant on Jan. 1, 1970, and soon after was discharged from active duty and became a reservist.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Kerry-Purple-Hearts.html?hp

no doubt Kerry was a badass back in the day

strk · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:19:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So strk, you want a murderer for president?

IMHO we already have that

Drunky · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:34:08 PM »

Kerry's Military Record

Sixpence · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:34:18 PM »

SYSTEM: You have shot down Ripsnort #20

strk · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:40:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Drunky
Kerry's Military Record

Where did this Lt Cmdr serve with Kerry? On the Gridley? He surely wasnt the skipper of a frigate as Lt Cmdr. He may have been a DivO or XO maybe and served with Kerry while Kerry was a junior officer on the same ship

The actual record speaks for itself, not someone - with motives unknown at this time - who wants to criticize him when he is running for president.

classic red herring. Ignore the other 2 purple hearts, the fact that he volunteered for Nam and that he won the SIlver Star

Drunky · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:49:46 PM »

I just think that your championing for Kerry is quite silly. Especially with your borderline fanaticism with hating Bush.

I believe that you hate Bush so much that you would vote for a potted plant before Bush and claim that the plant is more qualified/has better service record/smells better/doesn't lie/doesn't alternately raise and lower oil prices/didn't ruined the economy/and doesn't choke on pretzels.

You aren't one of those people that really believe that Clinton was responsible for the economy and that he 'didn't have sex with that woman' and if he did 'it was his own business' do you?

strk · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:10:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Drunky
I just think that your championing for Kerry is quite silly. Especially with your borderline fanaticism with hating Bush.

I believe that you hate Bush so much that you would vote for a potted plant before Bush and claim that the plant is more qualified/has better service record/smells better/doesn't lie/doesn't alternately raise and lower oil prices/didn't ruined the economy/and doesn't choke on pretzels.

You aren't one of those people that really believe that Clinton was responsible for the economy and that he 'didn't have sex with that woman' and if he did 'it was his own business' do you?

lol the Plant WOULD be better as president! I bet it wouldnt start a single war on faulty intelligence or whatever they are blaming nowadays.

Tarmac · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:14:16 PM »

"The government is best which governs least."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Plant = teh win.

Yes, over Kerry too.

Drunky · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:21:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
"The government is best which governs least."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Plant = teh win.

Yes, over Kerry too.

Jefferson was a states right advocate. No strong central government, etc.

In some ways I agree. In some ways I disagree. Granted I'm more republican than democrate but I'm also more liberal than conservative.

I call bullshiiiit when I see it. I don't think that GW is the greatest president of all times. Which one really is? (That is a rhetorical question)

But I don't think he's that bad that people have to obsess over his removal. Jeezus, Clinton was a moral scumbag (proven) but then GW is compared to Hitler (unproven). I don't get that.

Airhead · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:32:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So strk, you want a murderer for president?

ROFLMAO It took twenty thousand posts but Ripsnort finally made me spew beer out of my nose... only thing better would be if he'd called Kerry a "Baby Killer."

WTG Rip, I <~~> you. And in spite of your political leanings teach your kid to bat left handed- he'll go further.~~

Nash · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:55:47 PM »

To watch people grasp at any straw to attack Kerry's distinguished war record while defending Bush's lack of... well, any kind of war record whatsoever...

Help me here.... I can't think of any word to describe it.