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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2004, 02:33:32 PM »
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The original thread was locked, humble started a new one on the same subject. HT locked that one and here we are with humble re hashing it again.

 


Well Batz, I don't know how the hell everyone else reads it, but to me the subject read" Radshack" and the message looked like an apology or a call of truce, it did not look like humble was even trying to keep a locked thread going, he changed the subject and was speaking to Radshack directly.  

you people on this BBS amaze me sometime by the way ya'll got to throw your 2 cents in everytime something gets jacked out of shape.  As if you know what is right and what is wrong. This doesn't involve anyone but humble and Radshack, and now hitech, noone else.

humble was offering a truce nothing more, nothing less.

my apologies for having to throw my .02 in............

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2004, 02:55:55 PM »
He picked right up where he left the last one:

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Bottom line is simple...the best defense against the above mentioned topic is vigilance and the folks at AH do everything they can on this particular issue (least the airborne part)...if you see something you think is wrong...and you have it on film...send it to skuzzy...it has no place here.


The second part could of been construed as a personal attack by Radshack...

As for your "professional opinion"... your about as wrong as you could be on all points...if you put your comment out on anyone of 100 bbs boards you'd have a deluge of folks showing just how wrong you are....leave em on DOD and such where they belong...


He didn't post that for posterity. HT locked both threads and he again posts the same thing here.

Again quote anything resembling an apology.

In fact it included comments such as

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he's made it clear to me that the individual customer doesn’t matter anymore.


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humble was offering a truce nothing more, nothing less.


Humble didn’t start this thread and offered nothing but a regurgitation of a few of his most recent posts. HT had to call him on comments he made it the gv thread as well.

So yeah your 2 cents were wasted, maybe re-read what has been written before investing again.

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2004, 05:08:11 PM »
"Quote the apology."

Here ya go

"As I said, skuzzy and crew are exceptionally vigilent and that is the true first line of defense...as for my comments on the other thread...lets simply leave it with an apology for some hasty comments...."

Did you really miss this or just ingnoring the obvious to dogpile?

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2004, 05:12:12 PM »
He was quoting himself from the other thread HT locked.

Did you miss that or are you just trying to start a dogpile of your own?

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2004, 05:14:12 PM »
Humble didn’t start this thread and offered nothing but a regurgitation of a few of his most recent posts. HT had to call him on comments he made it the gv thread as well



I didn't reguritate a thing (show me hwere if I'm wrong), and I certainly wasn't rehashing old news. My GV post simply asked a few questions that I felt needed to be asked...I said my piece and left it. I certainly wasnt trying to "jumpstart" a thread that I knew would be (and should be) locked.

HT & Pryo's "call" on my GV comments shows nothing more than the "thin skin" thats evolved. Anyone who's been around the GV's knows there are issues and I'm not the first to post about it...

I went out of my way to avoid crossing "that imaginary line" they've drawn and actually asked for guidance on how to report the "bugs"...

So yeah your 2 cents were wasted, maybe re-read what has been written before investing again

Batz,

I cant figure out of you cant read or cant think...

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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2004, 05:17:06 PM »
Batz is ignoring it, to stir the pot, or what ever you want to call it.  He must have a hate toward humble to try and smear him like this.

I explained/said in my post that humble started a new subject it said "Radshack" and it offered an apology or truce and it was directed toward Radshack only. Then humble reposted his apology along with other comments or opinions of his here in this thread, still the apology is clear.

I read all the posts,  and I don't try to take things out of context or  change what people mean when they type.

my 2cents was worth every freaking penny Batz if it gets under your skin!
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2004, 05:22:30 PM »
One piece of advice, Batz. NEVER, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, take the witness stand in a court case. You would be impeached in 15 seconds.

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2004, 05:33:12 PM »
Nice pile tards,

Humble,

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113341

This thread you made claims of bad code and called HTs work garbage.

That certainly in the same vein:

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he's made it clear to me that the individual customer doesn’t matter anymore.


Same garbage warmed over.

You have been around long to know how those "cheating threads" go. They are deleted or locked. You then started another about the same thing and it was locked. Now you squeeze into this thread the same stuff that was locked in the other.

As I said:

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Ya think it would be easy enough to see that the whole subject should be dropped but some can't grasp it. Then their feelings get hurt when they get called on it.


Anyway you quit didnt ya? Aint much else you need to say.

I don't smear humble just search his previous posts. He isnt a victim.

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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2004, 06:43:52 PM »
Compared to the FM and other code the GV code is substandard...

I called the code garbage...not the overall product or the people behind it. I stand 100% behind that comment and you and others can choose to disagree.

Over the lst 6 months in other posts numerous folks have commented on the increasing lack of "customer sensitivity"...I found hitechs comment when he locked the thread to be rude, inconsiderate and unneccessary...

I did not try and restart the original thread, I felt the original poster deserved a posted response...the thread would of died right there.

I posted nothing here in my original post, I did try and answer a subsequent post and put what I felt relavent here...

My account is paid thru the end of march...I may or may not burn some of the perkies off but I dont see the need to continue.

I don't smear humble just search his previous posts. He isnt a victim.???

I've never claimed I'm a victim and you are certainly putting aspin on this...

The bottom line is simple...

As a general rule my posts are reasonably thought out and reasonably civil. they represent my opinion nad aren't automatically right (or wrong). Hopefully I've conducted myself in a reasonable and respectful manner. I'll certainly defend and/or modify my position as events dicdate...

 Thanks for taking a moment to reply...
I completely disagree that calling a specific piece of a product garbage is an attack or is automatically insulting. It's simply criticism of one component. I've tried to make it constructive not combative in nature. I simply don't think it measures up to the standard you've set for yourself. ....

Thanks again for taking a moment to respond, thats all I (or any other customer can ask for). My comments are/were ment as constructive criticism of your product...not as an attack on you or your overall efforts

Anyway,

I have no desire to continue to rehash this, your certainly entitled to think whatever you want. And hitech and Pyro can run their company any way they see fit.

All the Best

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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2004, 07:38:01 PM »
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Over the lst 6 months in other posts numerous folks have commented on the increasing lack of "customer sensitivity"...I found hitechs comment when he locked the thread to be rude, inconsiderate and unneccessary...


Well I am sure he has read some of your posts which were equally rude, inconsiderate and unneccessary.

But in terms of Customer Service its never been better. A simply check on AH2 development shows that. Not only are they responding to requests but they are participating in a good many discussions.

Most recently they have adjusted the way fuel is loaded between the various tanks. They fixed issues with the 109 art etc...

You may feel that the way they respond to you is rude but as I said, you are not a victim.

Regards,

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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2004, 07:51:06 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2004, 08:52:01 PM »
Well I am sure he has read some of your posts which were equally rude, inconsiderate and unneccessary ...

Please show me one....

But in terms of Customer Service its never been better. A simply check on AH2 development shows that. Not only are they responding to requests but they are participating in a good many discussions ...

I certainly hope AH2 turns out to be the product everyone is hoping for but it's hardly "customer service"...it is an attempt to position the product for a percieved shift in market dynamics.


Most recently they have adjusted the way fuel is loaded between the various tanks. They fixed issues with the 109 art etc...

Hmmm, and this is more important than adding the Ki-84 (in AH2 Beta or here) or another plane or GV. Major releases are a complicated issue and represent significant investment of time and resources so I understand the lack of continued support for AH1...however a minor bone would certainly help now and then.

Again though your twisting the issue with half truths and distortions. This is simply about the interaction between a company and its customer(s)...in closing I'll give you a true story.

since I've lived here I've bought 5 cars (excluding my XK-8) all were sold to me by 1 dealership here...recently my wife wanted a new truck I went back and they had 1 that was perfect..and offered it at invoice...only problem is everyone else was offering the same truck (with different features for $1000 under invoice) when I asked the sales manager why he was stuck at invoice he said because I have the truck you want...I bought a more upgraded truck from another dealer for $7,500 more (but $1500 under invoice) and never regretted it once...

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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2004, 10:15:58 PM »
I might not be able to fly a rolling scissors to save my life, but I can spot a troll from 1000 meters.

And exactly how are you helping Batz?

If you have an axe to grind - spit it out. Else let me make a rude comment and then stick a lock on the thread. Yea thats the ticket.

Your post in this thread have been constistanty inflamatory. Do you really want to hear diatribes about companies who seek the safe harbor of American ideals and then crap all over them when it suits them? Because I can give you diatribes about such hypocrisy. Is that what you are trolling for Batz?

I was on the internet before Gore "invented the internet"[yea right], and the consistant abuse of moderation sickens me. It goes against its purpose. Before it was prostituted, it was a place for the free exchange of information. Now its ad space in an Enquire magazine. "oooo ooo, I disagree but don't have the logic to refute thier argument- please tell them to SHUTUP!"

I really need to quit this board or it will lead me to quitting the game.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2004, 10:34:17 PM by opus »

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2004, 12:45:09 AM »
Humble, I quoted you here and linked you to your gv thread. Unless you forgot what you typed.

HT has said after the AH2 is released they will be in a position to release new planes quicker. If thats not good enough for you then why waste your time?

As I said above your simply regurgitating the same stuff. Ht doesn't listen, Ht doesn't respond to customers (meaning you) Blah Blah...

I am not twisting anything. But you are playing victim "I am the poor customer who only wants what is best for the game yet folks pick on me".

There was a time when whines like that would get you more then what I have typed here. Search Ram or Mandoble.

I don't care anything about your life but you spend .50 cents a day to play AH. If .50 cents is too much why bother?

Opus,

 I am not gonna read your non-sense, go sleep it off.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2004, 12:53:44 AM by Batz »

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2004, 12:48:39 AM »
Speaking of mental pictures:

Two men kissing and make up.. What's next? Cross dressing?