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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2004, 12:40:01 PM »
opps, damnit Ripsnort be consice with your post subjects....stupid double post :rofl

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2004, 12:44:25 PM »
Kevin?   I know Pat played on the Cards... think Kevin is his brother.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2004, 12:48:08 PM »
Well I just read the news.. it was Pat.  This is a damned shame. While his death is no less tragic than any coalition soldier, it ends a good life story.  Pat Tillman did a lot of really classy things.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2004, 12:50:49 PM »
Read thid guy's story if you can, he's a TRUE hero and patriot. It's amazing to think we still have people like him around.

He gave up millions of dollars and walked away from the NFL in order to join the Army

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2004, 12:53:40 PM »
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040423/D824L20G4.html



WASHINGTON (AP) - Pat Tillman was killed in Afghanistan after walking away from a multimillion-dollar NFL contract to join the Army Rangers, U.S. officials said Friday.

Tillman, who served with the Army Rangers, was 27.

Although the military had not officially confirmed his death, the White House put out a statement of sympathy that praised Tillman as "an inspiration both on an off the football field."

Former Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis said he felt both overwhelming sorrow and tremendous pride in Tillman, who "represented all that was good in sports."

 
"Pat knew his purpose in life," McGinnis said. "He proudly walked away from a career in football to a greater calling."

Several of Tillman's friends have said the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks influenced his decision to enlist.

Lt. Col. Matt Beevers, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Kabul, confirmed that a U.S. soldier was killed Thursday evening, but would not say whether it was Tillman.

He said the soldier died after a firefight with anti-coalition militia forces about 25 miles southwest of a U.S. military base at Khost, which has been the scene of frequent attacks.

Two other U.S. soldiers on the combat patrol were injured, and an Afghan soldier fighting alongside the Americans was killed.

Arizona Sen. John McCain noted that Tillman declined to speak publicly about his decision to put his NFL career on hold.

"He viewed his decision as no more patriotic than that of his less fortunate, less renowned countrymen who loved our country enough to volunteer to defend her in a time of peril," McCain, a Republican, said in a statement.

U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said a formal announcement was expected later in the day. Spokesmen at the Pentagon and U.S. Army declined comment.

Tillman played four seasons with the Cardinals before enlisting in the Army in May 2002. The safety turned down a three-year, $3.6 million deal from Arizona.

He made the decision after returning from his honeymoon with his wife, Marie.

"He knew what was important to him, and he made his decision and stood by it," said quarterback Eli Manning, expected to be a top pick in Saturday's NFL draft.

Tillman's brother, Kevin, a former minor league baseball prospect in the Cleveland Indians' organization, also joined the Rangers and served in the Middle East. They committed to three-year stints in the Army.

Some 110 U.S. soldiers have died - 39 of them in combat - during Operation Enduring Freedom, which began in Afghanistan in late 2001.

Tillman's agent, Frank Bauer, has called him a deep and clear thinker who has never valued material things.

In 2001, Tillman turned down a $9 million, five-year offer sheet from the Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams out of loyalty to the Cardinals, and by joining the Army, he passed on millions more from the team.

Tillman turned aside interview requests after joining the Army. In December, during a trip home, he made a surprise visit to his Cardinal teammates.

"For all the respect and love that all of us have for Pat Tillman and his brother and Marie, for what they did and the sacrifices they made ... believe me, if you have a chance to sit down and talk with them, that respect and that love and admiration increase tenfold," McGinnis said at the time.

It was not immediately clear when he went to Afghanistan.

The 5-foot-11, 200-pound Tillman was distinguished by his intelligence and appetite for rugged play. As an undersized linebacker at Arizona State, he was the Pac-10's defensive player of the year in 1997.

He set a franchise record with 224 tackles in 2000 and warmed up for 2001's training camp by competing in a 70.2-mile triathlon in June.

Tillman carried a 3.84 grade point average through college and graduated with high honors in 3 1/2 academic years with a degree in marketing.

"You don't find guys that have that combination of being as bright and as tough as him," Phil Snow, who coached Tillman as Arizona State's defensive coordinator, said in 2002. "This guy could go live in a foxhole for a year by himself with no food."

Tillman and his brother Kevin last year won the Arthur Ashe Courage award at the 11th annual ESPY Awards

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2004, 12:54:25 PM »
I just got done watching the confernece on the news.  This is a sad deal.  This guy really is a true American.

I agree that his death is no less or more significant than any others but you dont hear about every day that a guy walks away from a life of relaive ease to become a dam a grunt in the army.

Evander Holyfield enlisted in the Marines a couple of years ago....he didnt even make it through boot camp.

to this guy and his family

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2004, 02:50:55 PM »
Sad.  I doubt many people would have quit the NFL to join the Army Rangers.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2004, 03:12:36 PM »
I guarentee you won't find 1 of those Gansta Bling Bling Trashmouth players that would leave the NFL to join up. Pat Tillman was a great American.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2004, 03:20:43 PM »
GunSlinger, I don't think it was Evander H. that enlisted in the Marines.  It was some other boxer.

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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2004, 04:12:56 PM »
After we forgot what a 'Hero' looked like, one appears.  May he RIP.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2004, 04:34:01 PM »
Ya know... my hat's off to the guy and his family, but he's no more special than anyone else in the Army.

The fact that he had more to lose than the average guy doesn't diminish the fact that every other guy there is also risking EVERYTHING he has.

On April 20...
 
Army Sgt. 1st Class Bradley C. Fox, 34, of Orlando, Fla.; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division, Friedburg, Germany; died April 20 in Landstuhl, Germany, of injuries sustained on March 14 when his military vehicle hit an improvised explosive device.

Army Spc. Christopher D. Gelineau, 23 of Portland, Maine; assigned to the 133rd Engineer Battalion, Army National Guard, Gardiner, Maine; killed April 20 when his vehicle hit an improvised explosive device in Mosul, Iraq.

Army Pfc. Leroy Harris-Kelly, 20, of Azusa, Calif.; assigned to the 596th Maintenance Company, 3rd Corps Support Command, V Corps, Darmstadt, Germany; killed April 20 when his truck went off the road and rolled over because of limited visibility and dangerous driving conditions north of Tallil, Iraq.

There's plenty more that gave everything and didn't find their way to the front pages of MSN.

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2004, 04:56:32 PM »
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There's plenty more that gave everything and didn't find their way to the front pages of MSN.


This isn't Tillman's fault.


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The fact that he had more to lose than the average guy


He didn't have anything more to lose that any other serving soldier. He did do an exceptional thing when enlisting however.  I don't know of any other professional athlete/ millionaire that gave it up to serve. Compared to his peers (other athletes) and to many of us, Tillman was exceptional.  
no-one is saying Tillman is any more special than any other soldier, people are saying he is exceptional when compared to his peers.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2004, 05:23:04 PM »
Truly sad news and bad luck. Maybe he should have been an officer instead, guys like him shouldnt die.

RIP

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2004, 07:49:06 PM »
Only a few people on this board would even attempt to turn this into a negative story - only a few more have yet to speak in one of the threads.  Lets get crackin' kids.