Non-World War II Setups

[artik]

There is all the time discussions on certain non-ww2 setups. All the time there are people that do/do not like them.

So I'd like to put the thread that will deal about all such setups in constuctive manner.

The quesctions/goals are:
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• Do we need them, is it WW2 game only or we able to represent other setups that will be brake from normal CT gameplay, or even to enter them as standard CT setups?
• What do we need to make such setups playable and most important enjoyable (sorry for my engligh ;) )
• Discuss certain setups to give good/bad points of each of them

First
IMHO such setups are good and had place if they properly deveopled. I personally like them they give us some brake from normal CT.

I remember 1946 Second Wind liked it much - it gave me great apportunity to fly 163, 262 and CHog that I not have most of time due perk value. Also other setups give you interesting vision of the plane that you know or/and non standard situations that you do not have in normal CT gameplay.

Maybe some/lots of players will disagree with me about such setups - but I think it is worth to discuss it in cosntructive manner.

Second
IMO most important for such setups is not to do them experemental without relevant terrain/skins. These things has very important factors and give you more historical feeling.

The best exaple is 1946 Second Wind with IJ 262 and 163.

If in Soccer War the relevant terrain was used and all the snins were rebuild I think it was much more sucessefull. IMO

So... your vision ?

Third
Setups:

• 1946 Second Wind IMO it was good setup. Probably it had lack of game ballance for IJ but it was good brake from the air supriority of F4Us and other allies planes over N1Ks and Ki.s. I would like to see it on some pont but..... that is my opinion.
  
• 1948 Independence War I will not tell much I enjoyed - but it is my setup ;) so it is not relevant.
  
• The Soccer War Interesting - lack of terrain skins destroyed all the setup IMO. Would be nice to see it with terrain.
  
• Kadesh the setup was put using tunissia terrain and without skins, with limied Meteors....
  Now we have terrain and the setup could be done with unlimited Meteors. I really like Jets vs Jets fights however I doubt if most of CT players know to fly them well and like to have a week of jet combats. It worth try but I'm not sure it will be sucessefull
  
• Korean War If we would have Korean Terrain and skins for Russian Planes it could be very nice. 262 Could be reskin as Meteor (but not sure that it will work well it should be limited). With good terrain I would like to see how is it to fight F4Us/P51s vs Las and Yaks. But it really needs terrain.
  
• The French Indo-China War that storch suggested. IMO it would be very interesting - however it needs terrain.
  

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I hope to continue the discussion in constructive manner.

[Batz]

Personally I don't care for them but I have no opinion as to whether they should be run in the Ct or not. But then again I don't prefer many ww2 based setups be run either. But If folks fly them in good numbers and have fun then great. I do think with the amount plane substitutions its just silly to force a non- ww2 setup with a ww2 planeset.

I mean a 109 vrs. spit is a 109 vrs. spit no mattyer what you call it or what map its on.

YMMV.

[Shane]

personally i don't care for them. the only one i really liked was the what if with russia vs the brits/us over japan.   it gave a chance to see how the perked allied iron (temp, f4u-4 and spit14) could deal with la7's, yaks and the 262 (russian stolen lw tech).

[Löwe]

Don't like them, and never have. A Post WWII setup would be coo; if this was a post WWII sim, but it's not.

[Skyfoxx]

Ditto what Lowe said. I don't care for them at all. New skins or terrains would make no difference in my dislike of post WW2 setups. Keep it WW2.
YMMV

[TheBug]

I also don't like post-WW2 setups and would be happy if I never saw one again.  Prefer the CT to stay with historically based WW2 setups, to the point the planeset allows.

[Grits]

I prefer WWII, but Israel '48 is the only non-WWII I have played and it was OK.

[Oldman731]

One of the things I like about the CT is that, at a very basic level, and unlike the MA, it duplicates WWII.  So count me in with the people who don't like the post-WWII or the never-land setups.

Having said that, I have to admit that I've had fun in all of them (except for the 1948 Arab-Israeli thing, and that wasn't the fault of the setup).  I really don't mind running one every now and again.  I oppose running them regularly, which is something that seems to be happening.

- oldman

[CurtissP-6EHawk]

I dont like them. If I want to fight Spit vs Spit, I can go to the MA.

[Dennis]

It's a WWII sim with WWII planes sporting WWII paintscemes flown on terrains representing WWII-era theaters.  Trying to make it something it is not will always be more of a compromise than I am willing to make.

I play Aces High because of a newfound interest in WWII aviation.  I have absolutely no interest in faux, what-if, fantasy setups.

Splash1

[Soulyss]

I don't care for them too much myself, but if the planesets can be filled and skinned, without subsitutions I really don't have a problem with them being run either.  Nothing ruins the feeling of being there faster than filling out the planesets with subsitutions.  I know if has to happen sometimes but it just kills it for me a lot of times.

[SKurj]

They sound great to me.

Not flown any myself, but the Independence war and Soccer war both look like they might be especially fun +)


SKurj

[o0Stream140o]

Friends don't let Friends fly Jets....



Just my opinion.

[storch]

LoL Stream, great screen shot

[o0Stream140o]

Originally posted by storch
LoL Stream, great screen shot

That's just going down the taxi lane... can't get one up in the air... thank god for props...