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« on: April 26, 2004, 01:59:14 PM »
It was the Dutch submarine K XVI who sunk a japanese warship 24 december 1941.

the next day it was sunk by a japanese torpedo.
i don't know what japanese class of ship it was.

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 02:14:29 PM »
A U.S. destroyer sank a Jap midget sub during the attack on Pearl Harbor.

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 03:08:00 PM »
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A U.S. destroyer sank a Jap midget sub during the attack on Pearl Harbor.


The USS Ward sank a Japanese midget submarine in 1200 feet of water south of Pearl harbor before dawn on december 7.

One of her 5 inch shells pierced the base of the conning tower.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 05:32:52 PM »
That 4 inch gun mount is now on the mall of Minnesota State Capitol in St. Paul.  The Ward's crew were Naval Reserve who had been activated from Minnesota.

The American F4F's and shore batteries defending Wake Island accounted for a light cruiser and two destroyers of the invasion force during December as well, I recall.  Those successes heartened the entire country.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 09:14:06 PM »
rgr that I am in Minnesota. Did you know the P51C Redtail is based here as well?

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2004, 11:04:17 PM »
The DUtch Faught Excedingly well and with great Honor in the opening stages of the War In the Pacific, their subs did quiet well. Doorman and the DeReoiter (sp?) Preformend admarably with great honor when In comand of the Joint Naval forces ABDA in their efforts to stop the Japanese Invashion forces in the the Dutch East indies.


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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2004, 02:43:50 AM »
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
It was the Dutch submarine K XVI who sunk a japanese warship 24 december 1941.

the next day it was sunk by a japanese torpedo.
i don't know what japanese class of ship it was.


first or not, here this the details of this encounter...

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From The Submarines of the Royal Netherlands Navy
24 Dec 1941: K XVI attacks and sinks (two torpedoes hit) the Japanese Fubuki class destroyer Sagiri (1950t or 2090t). Position: 0134'N-11021'E, 30nm north off Kuching (Borneo). Sagiri's own torpedoes catch fire and blow up the ship, 121 man are lost. The Japanese Shirakumo and Minesweeper No. 3 rescue 120 survivors.

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25 Dec 1941 at about 11:45 (Japanese Standard Time): The Japanese submarine I 66 torpedoes the K XVI and all hands (36) are lost. Position is 230'N-10950'E, 60 nm north west of Kuching (Borneo). Some source report 01N-110E as the position, which seems incorrect since this position is on land and 40 nm from the nearest coast.

60 miles NW of Kuching and only 50 ! meters off I 66's starboard bow the submerged I 66 spots K XVI. Cdr Yo****omi starts an approach and 13 minutes later he fires a single torpedo that sinks the K XVI. The I 66 is the first IJN submarine to sink a submarine. In the battle report Cdr Yo****omi writes: "the enemy sub was quite large".


Details of the Fubuki class destroyer Sagiri and Submarine I-66 can be found here:
Nihon Kaigun


... geez, the name of the commander of the submarine is partly sensored because of possible usage of the word to describe poo!

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2004, 06:51:07 AM »
LOL

nasty commanders they must have been
thanks for info :)

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2004, 11:14:04 AM »
A submarine, midget or not, is by definition not a warship. It's a boat. JFYI
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2004, 12:48:29 PM »
The P-51C is based in St. Paul, is that at Holman Field?  I know some of the Ghost Squadron birds are based down at South St. Paul, including the B-25 "Miss Mitchell".

BTW I saw the highest scoring member of the Tuskegee Flyers being interviewed at the August air show at Holman a few years back.  Awesome to see history walking around like that.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2004, 01:20:55 PM »
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The P-51C is based in St. Paul, is that at Holman Field? I know some of the Ghost Squadron birds are based down at South St. Paul, including the B-25 "Miss Mitchell".

BTW I saw the highest scoring member of the Tuskegee Flyers being interviewed at the August air show at Holman a few years back. Awesome to see history walking around like that.


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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2004, 01:32:15 PM »
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It was the Dutch submarine K XVI who sunk a japanese warship 24 december 1941.
 


The Chinese must have managed to sink a Japanese ship or two in the years leading up to 1941.

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2004, 02:05:40 PM »
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The P-51C is based in St. Paul, is that at Holman Field?  I know some of the Ghost Squadron birds are based down at South St. Paul, including the B-25 "Miss Mitchell".

BTW I saw the highest scoring member of the Tuskegee Flyers being interviewed at the August air show at Holman a few years back.  Awesome to see history walking around like that.


I was lucky enough to meet Lt Col Charles McGee in jan 1998 back in MA. His hosts werent available, so I had him for three hours before his presentation, we talked about the online sim and he was amazed that there are people flying around in these aircraft. he was even more humbled when there are thousands of guys that consider him and other airmen heroes. "I was just doing what I was trained to do" was his remark to that. I just sat there and listened to so many of his stories. In Aug 2000 when I moved here, I ran into him again at the airshow in St Paul, he remembered me and we spoke again, for much less time than before.

75 years old, and still sharp as a razor.

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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2004, 07:30:16 PM »
Three days after Pearl Harbor attack, with the defenses of the Philippines crumbling all around, Capt. Colin Kelly of USAAF, took surviving B-17 "Flying Fortress" from Clark Field on a mission to bomb an aircraft carrier reported off Luzon, but did not find IJN Carrier and decide bombed at Battleship Haruna, but that what they thought they sunk Battleship Haruna.   After sunk the Japanese vessel, Capt. Kelly B-17 were shot up badly damage and he told his crews to bailed out, but Capt. Kelly did not bailed out and was killed in the ensuing crash.

He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for sinking the vessel and was probably was killed by Legend Saburo Sakai who was one of the Zero to shot down B-17.  So, Capt. Kelly immediately became America's first air war hero during after 3 days of Pearl Harbor attack.

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 11:44:17 PM »
If the midget sub doesn't do it for you - the Japanese Fleet Sub I-70 was sunk North of Hawaii on December 10, 1941 by aircraft from the carrier U.S.S. ENTERPRISE CV-6.
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