Author Topic: Kids Online (Read 2627 times)

Morpheus · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2004, 12:50:02 PM »

LOL

I hate squelching people anyways.

I am pretty laid back. If someone wants to spout off over range vox and make a fool out of himself or herself so be it.

Half the time when I would try to squelch someone it'd take forever to try and get their name right and before you know it I was in flames otw down to the ground because I want watching my 6.

Ch1 is another story. I hate squelching it because I like to shoot the breeze with my buds on the other side. Joke, laugh and have fun. Its most agrivating when one person steps in and ruins the party for the rest of the ppl because he has no self control over.

I understand that HiTech and his crew are extremely busy with AH2. But where are all the moderators? I mean I see someone say something on Ch1 that a year ago or so would have been a definat mute, but they just keep on talking...

Is the lack of moderators due to their own misuse? If so give me the POWERS and I wont let you down;)

Ghosth · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2004, 12:52:16 PM »

Better yet

Anytime you've totally lost your cool.
Your feeling frustrated, & want to yell, scream, kick your heels & throw a temper tantrum. Try Alt F4 works every time.

Anytime your taking YOUR frustration out on someone else, Alt F4.

Anytime your running someone down because they don't agree or see things your way, Alt F4.

Walk away, cool down, say high to the family, etc. Then when your ready to behave like a human being, come on back.

AH will still be there.

HavocTM · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2004, 01:42:29 PM »

Yep, I did say 'screw your kids' at 2am last night and I was trying to find a constructive way of dealing with it.

First off, I don't think this game is for kids. If you let your kids play, you have to be prepared for some bad language.

Secondly, it was typed and not on vox. Very easy to squelch.

Thirdly, who lets their kids play an adult online game at 2am on a school night? I think that seeing bad words is the least of your worries.

It is definitely unreasonable to expect gamers to police themselves. I find that the younger players are the worst offenders when it comes to bad language and insults.

Of course, I could follow my own advice and squelch folks that say 'america sucks', but that would be too easy wouldn't it?

Anyway, I apologize to Twitchy for what I said last night.

Maniac · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2004, 02:48:26 PM »

If you worry about AH then dont let them play games like Counter Strike etc...

Skuzzy · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:05:45 PM »

There is no reason or excuse for the use of derogatory, foul, or abusive language. None.
It is disruptive and there is nothing positive it will accomplish.

Quite the opposite, all it generates is more anger, frustration, contempt, and causes others that were on the edge to go over.

There is no reason children should not be able to sit with thier parents and watch this game be played. If you feel it is inappropriate, then I would say to you, you are inappropriate. You cannot surmise a situation where using profanity or other abusive language is either appropriate or positive.

Adogg · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:18:45 PM »

After an intense round of being vulched, sniped, or just plain forgetting to lower my gear on landing I will curse and swear. But you know what? I don't have my thumb on the mike key when I do it.

Nor do I feel compelled to type the obscenities going through my head.

Considering that swearing in the forum is an active choice and you can't really do it 'accidentally.' And considering that most of us know that there are young'n's in the MA, there really isn't much excuse for it.

I'm the first to admit that I can curse like a drunken Marine, but the fact is I can do it at home without broadcasting it across the ether.

To argue that just because you can't censor the net gives people carte blanche to be obscene, is wrong headed.

HavocTM · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:23:13 PM »

That is very true Skuzzy.

I guess my whole reason for starting the thread is to let folks know that there are ways to minimize exposure to the bad language if their children want to play.

I don't think we will ever get to the point that players don't use bad words or insult each other. I think it is the nature of online gaming.

I think the vast majority of AH players are pretty good online citizens, but it is pretty difficult to keep both insults and bad language from happening. I think just like using a web filter, players with kids can take a few steps to keep their gaming experience more wholesome.

PS - I just re-read my earlier post and I think I didn't communicate my point correctly. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask gamers to police themselves, I just don't think it's reasonable to expect that they *will* police themselves.

Also, I didn't mean that gamers should have 'carte blanche' to say whatever they want; I simply think that you will always have bad apples and good apples that stray to the dark side occasionally and you have to expect it.

Delirium · « **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:29:00 PM »

My nephew (who flies under 'Canaris') plays this game mostly on the weekends has riden in the car with me while traveling through NYC so profanities don't really concern me in regards to him.

My real concern is profanity and poor sportmanship allows the community to erode further and does not help encourage new flyers to stay in the game. Lets face it, subscribers are the life's blood of this game, without them the game dies.

-MZ- · « **Reply #23 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:44:51 PM »

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Originally posted by HavocTM

PS - I just re-read my earlier post and I think I didn't communicate my point correctly. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask gamers to police themselves, I just don't think it's reasonable to expect that they *will* police themselves.

The point seems to be that you're part of the problem, and a hypocrite.

Grimm · « **Reply #24 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:54:46 PM »

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Originally posted by HavocTM
who lets their kids play an adult online game

I must have missed that somewhere... I was not aware that AH was an Adult online game.

I think Skuzzy hit the nail on the head...

HavocTM · « **Reply #25 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:56:25 PM »

Okey dokey... I think I am done here. I dunno what it takes to satisfy you guys.

I come in, offer suggestions, apologize for my comments and it doesn't seem to matter. It seems that you hate insults and attacks in the actual game, but it's pretty much okay to throw them around in here during what I perceived to be an open rational discussion about how to help this problem.

While I don't claim to be an angel, I do think it's helpful to try and offer tips that folks might not be aware of if they want their kids to be able to play. It is apparent to me, though, that you guys are only interested in placing the blame for your poor parenting on the community, instead of using it as an opportunity to define what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior to your children.

Simply put, you know this can be a rather nasty game at times, yet you are the one who exposes your children to it.

So... have fun, let your kids play, do what you want. I will try to keep my language under control. The only guaranteed way of your children not seeing or hearing it is to not let them play. That's the best I can offer.

~~~havoc~~~

Grimm · « **Reply #26 on:** April 27, 2004, 04:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by HavocTM
I do think it's helpful to try and offer tips that folks might not be aware of

I will try to keep my language under control. That's the best I can offer.

~~~havoc~~~

Ding! we have a winner!

Havoc, I have this vision of you as John Bulusi from the Blues Brothers movie, as he is hit by that ray of sunlight in the church. "I have seen the light"

I think thats all anyone really wants is an honest attempt to keep it clean and fun

Skuzzy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 27, 2004, 04:16:49 PM »

People, there is nothing wrong with discussing this issue. If you have a contribution, then make it, but please do not attack another member of the community who is making a civil attempt to discuss this point.
When you do that, you are no better than the cussing maniac who is online.

Havoc, if you accept that bad or questionable language is part of online gaming, you have already allowed it to be appropriate to do.
I do not accept it. I reject it. It is a conscious effort to use poor, abusive or derogatory language on the part of the person doing so. It is also the conscious effort by a person to not act in such a manner.

Just as you find being attacked in this thread objectionable, I find it objectionable for it to occur in the game. You either chose to do it, or chose not to do it. There is no gray area here.

HavocTM · « **Reply #28 on:** April 27, 2004, 04:28:43 PM »

Fair enough :-)

LOL Grimm!

Anyway, I *was* out of line with Twitchy last night (morning??) and I will try to do better.

Now, it is time for me to fly and get killed mercilessly.

~~all~~

Furious · « **Reply #29 on:** April 27, 2004, 04:31:48 PM »

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Originally posted by HavocTM
...It is apparent to me, though, that you guys are only interested in placing the blame for your poor parenting on the community, instead of using it as an opportunity to define what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior to your children.

Simply put, you know this can be a rather nasty game at times, yet you are the one who exposes your children to it.

So... have fun, let your kids play, do what you want. I will try to keep my language under control. The only guaranteed way of your children not seeing or hearing it is to not let them play. That's the best I can offer...

LOL, holy crap. Did you proof read that?

Sorry Skuzzy, but a perpetrator of ch.1 tardness coming here preaching parenting skills and giving us advice on how to block his and similar folks' ch.1 rants is just stupid beyond belief.

His point is that due to his and other's inability to not type, AH should have an ESRB of M or AO. Do you agree with that?