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Offline Nilsen

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« on: April 27, 2004, 03:16:33 PM »
Hmm

I'm not sure that i like spending my tax money on making the export version of the JSF less stealthy than the US version. I say go for the Eurofighter since one of the main reasons that I would prefer the JSF over Eurofighter is stealth.

http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/idr/idr040416_1_n.shtml
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2004, 03:42:19 PM »
The United Kingdom are purchasing both the Eurofighter and the JSF.  UK have just started production of airframe components for the JSF.  I think it will depend on which version of the JSF will determine how stealthy it is.  

The Eurofighter will enter frontline service in the UK in 2005 (currently in service with 17 Sqn Operational Evaluation Unit and later this year 29 Sqn Operational Conversion Unit).  In other words it's ready, although the second tranche of aircraft will not be available until around 2010.  The JSF on the other hand will not be ready until when, 2013 - 2015?  In the UK it'll replace the Harrier GR9.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2004, 03:48:09 PM »
I wonder if all JSF "partner" countries that help pay for the development of the JSF knows that alot of those funds go to making their JSF's perform worse.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2004, 05:22:25 PM »
Bah!!
 Buy American, you know all the Europlanes are made from left over B-24 scraps and bud cans!!


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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2004, 02:20:29 AM »
The Gripen looks like a very good plane GS. It's range is way too short tho, and that is the main thing that ruinedt its chanses in th ecompetition. I would suggest that we drop the JSF and bring in Rafale to compete with the Eurofighter. They both have some very good things going for them...twin engines, good payload and range.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2004, 02:35:14 AM »
Our defence department chiefs just went before a govt. enquiry into why we signed up to the JSF program, and they said the only real difference between a JSF and F-22 is the price!  

Bahhh...imbeciles

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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2004, 02:42:39 AM »
LOL Tronski :D
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2004, 06:57:02 AM »
LOL GS... snakk om sola...

In an article today the norwegian defence department is very unhappy with the JSF project and is considering the swedish JAS instead now

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/innenriks/3734015.html
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2004, 10:38:03 AM »
last year we got 3 offers.

1. American... Buy F-16
(revision of those F16 were about 7 versions lower that lowest whitch fly under US flag.

2. Buy new Gripen

3. Rent Gripen and buy them later.


well

dont ask me why does state with 10 mil. people need fighters, i realy belive that 2x S-300 will cover whole our airspace.

but finaly most of our brainwashed senators, whitch has been for that old piece US`s crap (how else shall i call *brand new* F-16 whitch have so old devices that they are not allowed to fly in US)
had vacation and we rented Gripens.


So we have about 10 fighters right now and we are so SAFE!

:D


anyway i would vote for 4x S-300 instead of all those useless fighters.
If they realy need them for defending.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2004, 10:41:54 AM by lada »
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2004, 10:41:21 AM »
where are you from lada?
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 10:42:45 AM »
im fron country, whitch has been patroled by 3 Mig21s for past 10 years and we had no problems so far :D

edit.: and do not underestimate mig 21 please :D
http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_21/images/mig21_start.jpg
« Last Edit: April 28, 2004, 10:44:58 AM by lada »
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2004, 10:47:58 AM »
Yeah i should have guessed when you mentioned Gripen..

Czech Republic :)

"In August 2002 the Czech government announced that after paying bills to recover from the devastating summer floods, it would no longer be able to afford to buy 24 Jas-39 Gripen fighters from BAE Systems/Saab at a cost of about $2 billion. The Czech Republic's fleet of MiG-21s will reach the end of its service lifespan in 2004"

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/gripen.htm
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2004, 10:50:46 AM »
the two seater is purdy :)

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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2004, 11:31:54 AM »
Because that is what i read when i saw the report from the air force guys after the last round of testing before they decided to go ahead with eurofighter and jsf for the final round. the report is somewhere on http://www.mil.no

maybe it has more fuel than the f16 but they were comparing it with jsf and eurofighter.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2004, 11:41:41 AM »
lol yeah..

im a navy guy myself so im not 100% into airforce stuff... the closest i get is "shooting" planes down with mistral/37mm and playing AH :D

is the gripen that cheap compared to the euro??? ...must be powered by linux and amd then, no win/intel in that plane :eek:
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