An considered analysis of AH. By an Ultra Dweeb.

[PapaEcho]

What you think i'm NATH now as well.!

LOL you are something else AKDejaVu.

You aren't a lawyer are you?

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PapaEcho
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"Pull the pin and count to what??"

[Animal]

I think someone has a crush on Nath!!  

Deja, do you know his age? you could well go to jail for this.

Stop screwing a dead potato. Have problems with the Buzz-man? email him and stop trolling around. You are beginning to remind me of Nath, you are acting just like him.

Good bye.

[Jekyll]

 

Irony is him having an id named after a fishing lure.

No DejaVu.... irony is you having an id named after an illusion of having previously experienced something actually being encountered for the first time  

Boy, you set yourself up for that one, didn't you  



[This message has been edited by Jekyll (edited 12-30-2000).]

[pzvg]

Hmm, I think this very long and interesting thread hasn't resolved many issues in AH, but it has reinforced opinions formed about some things (some folks character, for one)


Oh and Btw, stop blaming the foul-mouthed,uncivilized behavior on the free 2 week accounts, the most foul folks in the MA have been there a long time

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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"

[-lazs-]

Well... Gotta agree with akdeja.. something very fishy bout ol buzz.   At the very least this guy has been "lurking" for a long time, having read so many threads that go back so long and distilling em.... He certainly doesn't seem like a shy retiring newbie to me.   If heis a newbie with this much "research" then he is simply a parot or a professor.   he doesn't know what he is talking about... How could he?    How many bombers has he shot down?  I have been doing this for quite some time now and have shot down dozens of bombers.... I don't know what the damage i did was or what really was happening..... How does he?   I have flown Hogs and flown against hogs and niks hundreds of times and have NEVER done or seen done what he describes.    Not saying it never happened to somebody somewhere but.... It sure takes more than a couple of weeks to have all these things happen to you and sort em out.

Claim your a newbie and then complain right at the first about how mean all the bad people are before you post... It's natural to try to be nice to the new guy and nobody (cept mean ol deja) wants to be a bad guy...

As for ol buzz's opinions.... Distil all the posts on every subject and you will see that he simply goes with the majority opinion in every case.    Pretends (how would he know?) it is his.    He only steps in it when he makes the assumption that all the whining about niks and Chogs means the majority hate em.

Oh, buzz.... I would lighten up on using Brown as a source... He was after all one man with one mans opinion.  Like most... Everyone has a plane that suits him best or that he just can't get into.   Nice reference to rivets and wing juncture on the Hog tho... add pilot compartment setback and for roll, aileron boost.    Feel free to share any of your extensive WWII research with the rest of us tho as we all have done a tiny bit ourselves and will have the work (and have opinions on the work) you are referencing.
lazs

[AKDejaVu]

 

That is my game id,

Just that it doesn't show up on the score page for any of the last 5 tours.  When did you do your free two week trial?


 

gees,you can see past your own arrogance!

Its difficult.  At times like this it gets lost in the crowd.

 

What you think i'm NATH now as well.!

Where did I say this?  I'm curious as to why you brought it up.  Almost seems as if someone is mixing up alternate egos.

AKDejaVu



[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 12-30-2000).]

[AKDejaVu]

 

No DejaVu.... irony is you having an id named after an illusion of having previously experienced something actually being encountered for the first time

 

From buzzbait:

During the original ACES HIGH Beta, I flew for 3 weeks at the end of the Beta. I flew the B17 many times and got many kills.

No jekyll.  Its not his first time.  Just seems a tad bit strange that someone that left the game after 3 weeks some time ago didn't offer any input back then.. and after a year the bbs is still a great mystery to him.  Also.. it was under a different ID.

Just bacause I'm paranoid... doesn't mean people aren't watching.

AKDejaVu

[Animal]

Paranoid ABOUT WHAT?! whos WATCHING YOU?! how does this situation affect you PERSONALLY.

You are just a troll. You are the same level as Nath-BDP.


Bye.

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Fat DRUNK Bastards.

Nothing feels sweeter than facing a powerful enemy 1 on 1, the battle is tough, but you emerge victorious. As he types <S>!!! on channel one, you open fire on his chute.

[AKDejaVu]

Sure animal.. now ask yourself why you posted?  My posting does not really affect you at all.  

Why would you care what I post? Why would I care what someone else posts?

Apply the same answer to both questions.

AKDejaVu

[Jekyll]

I wonder how many new guys read this BBS without ever posting.

And I wonder how many are reading this thread and thinking, "Boy, these guys are friendly to newbies, aren't they?"

AK, Lazs... if you're absolutely, positively CERTAIN that buzz is someone else, then go ahead.  If not, you're not doing this game any favours at the moment ;(



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Aces High Training Corps

[AKDejaVu]

Ask yourself this jekyll... he played in beta days.  Nobody named "buzzkill" shows up in the scores then.

He was somebody else.

AKDejaVu

[Nash]

 

Sure animal.. now ask yourself why you posted? My posting does not really affect you at all. - Deja

And how does Buzz's post really affect YOU, Deja?

Let's just assume for the sake of argument, that everything yer sensing about Buzz - his identity, his intentions - is absolutely true.

So what? At best, you've uhm... outted somebody...I guess... At worst, you've insulted someone genuinely new to our community, and who knows how many other people who now may be reluctant to post their ideas/opinions on this board.

I'm just not sure this little inquisition was worth it.


[This message has been edited by Nash (edited 12-30-2000).]

[AKDejaVu]

As for what the newbies think... I sure hope it is "that AKDejaVu sure can be an amazinhunk".  Basically, it won't be anything most of the rest of the bbs doesn't already know.

I'd hope they'd know enough to see that there will be different personalities in each and everry game they play in.  If they have played ANY on-line game.. they will already know this.

They will also know that when you present an opinion, you'd better be straight up.  Avoid the hidden inuendo.. the pseudonyms... the anonymity of it all.  Honest opinion after an honest assesment.

Call me what you want... you can actually even e-mail it to me if you'd like.  My e-mail is attatched to my handle... the exact same as it has been for every post I've made on every bbs I've ever posted on.  Sure I say things people may not want to hear... but I don't attempt to ghost write it in when I do it.  And I don't feel the need to create more accounts/characters to support my own oppinion.

As for the arena... I've never accused someone of hacking.  I've never accused someone of being an HO dweeb.  I've never accused someone of killing me in an inapropriate manner.  I've never taunted anyone exepted in taunt rebutle.  I've never criticized someone for the plane they were flying.

I wonder how many of those that criticized my response in this thread can say the same thing about their actions in the arena.

AKDejaVu

[AKDejaVu]

Well nash.. you see..

JEKYLL ADDRESSED THE POST DIRECTLY TO ME.

Now.. what does that have to do with you?  You just spotted what you thought was an easy target and decided to jump on his 6 too?

 

So what? At best, you've uhm... outted somebody...I guess... At worst, you've insulted someone genuinely new to our community, and who knows how many other people who now may be reluctant to post their ideas/opinions on this board.

And this affects you how?  You didn't like what I had to say.. so you chose to respond.  I didn't like what was posted initially and I responded.

If I'm wrong.. someone feels insulted by one member on a bbs, someone he has never seen on-line.  So what?  Its ok for certain people to insult certain people.. but only if certain people deem that the certain people really deserve it?

I ask for honesty in the posts.  The initial one i the thread.. yours... mine.. everyone's.

If you are new, you can say anything and we have to be nice to you because we don't want you to go away.  If you are new, we must assume you to be genuine and honest or else we can be labled an amazinhunk.

I ask for accountability for actions.  I'm not going to log on tomorrow with a different handle and sit back and be nice to everyone and criticize others that aren't... in some mad attempt to show that wasn't really me talking before.. it was only a personna.  What you see is what you get.  What I type is what I am accountable for.  What I type everyone can go back and say "but you said this..." if they chose.. because I will not hide from the things I've said.

I have to say I'd like to see more of that.  If you wish to change.. don't resort to a new ID.  Just change.  If you feel the need to stop be labled "arrogant".. then stop bragging about yourself.  No need to fire up a new id declaring "I am not an arrogant person.. just wanted to get that out of the way from the start".

If someone says your criticism of the game is out of line.. and may have been somewhat listened to if you hadn't been yelling it... don't come back with a different handle and say it softly.  That's dishonest.  That's cheating the rest of the community.

AKDejaVu

[Spitboy]

AK, your combative, suspicious tone DOES affect people. It affects every newbie who reads these boards, and every person who feels the tone of the arena and the UBB is a bit on the harsh side. It validates it, and fosters it.

Again, I ask, why not give this guy the benefit of the doubt? What has he done to harm AH, or you? Even if you're right, and he's an old-timer, so what? You have not given a valid response to that other than "I don't like it when folks post under false pretenses." And I point out again, that you have not even come close to proving his pretenses were false.

So what you've done is take your paranoid suspicions, castigate a person who posted some thought-provoking information to germinate discussion, and then turn this into a circus, or worse, a witch hunt where there's probably no witches anyway.

The negatives to what you're doing far outweigh any positives to the community. So, why do it?

Spitboy -SW-