Perk's request

[Voss]

P-51H

The reason? Well, the 13th flies nothing but the 51 (rarely anything else, anyway), so offering any other perk is pointless. I know, I know, it wasn't available in WWII, and the 13th has too many great pilots to give them such an awesome plane... yada yada...

Thought I'd ask, though.

Voss 13th T.A.S

[Sancho]

P-47M-1

Why? Because the 56th FG in Aces High flies the jug exclusively during squad ops, and this Thunderbolt variant *did* fly in WW2, and only with the real 56th FG.  Best of all for HTC, all they have to do is give the D25 a paintjob (externally identical) and power up the engine for 475mph top speed (designed to intercept V-1s, but never used for that purpose) and 4.9 minutes to 15,000ft.  

Thanks for your support.  

[texace]

F-16 baby. I want to compete with all the CHogs out there.

 

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Lt. Col. Aaron "txace-" Giles of the 457th BG
    "Fait Accompli"

[gatt]

G.56 "Centauro"
Engine: Daimler-Benz DB603-A (1,750hp)
Armament: 3x20mm Mauser
Max speed: 700Km/h at 7,000mt
Time to 7,000mt: 7'

Why? Becouse it is dark green, it has a beautiful sleek fuselage, it has a powerful armament and becouse it has 5 sq.mt. of wing area more than the C.205V  

[Thunder]

Voss has got it right! The P-51H would make an ideal Perk Ride!
   

   
Thunder


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[Citabria]

hmm i would like to see...

ki61
p-40
ki84
ki45
bf110
ki100
hurri2c/d
spitXIV
fw190d9
fw190f8
p-51b
p-47D razorback
g4m
ki44
ki43
p-38J
P-38F
Me262
mosquito (fighter and bomber versions)
ju88c4


that korean war stuff like the p-51H dosn't interest me.

in fact I think the P-51D should be perked and the P-51B added as standard mustang available to all.

it was after all the greatest aircraft of ww2.
this would make more sense. after all the p-51d was the definitive ww2 mustang and make no mistake. it has serious visibility advantages and more firepower (more rounds of ammo as well even w 2 guns) that more than compensate for the slight loss of performance over the P-51B.


this way the p-51b will be a common sight in the MA.

i also think the f4u1c should be perked so that the f4u1d would become the mainstream corsair in the MA. currently if you meet a corsair in the MA its most likely an f4u1c which is kinda unfortunate.

yes I to am in a mustang squad and I love the aircraft.
this is not a luftwobble p51 is uber whine.  

it makes a lot of sense if you look at perks as an actual combat ww2 aircraft to look forward to. it would also make the p-51b a viable aircraft used often.


would it be so terrible to perk the p-51d and in its place give the MA a standard issue p-51b?


this is after all a ww2 sim i hope.


Not as many folks would be flying Aces High if it were a korean war sim and the p-51h&k is a korean war bird by most accounts.

[Jekyll]

Well Cit, you DO realise that if the P51D is perked HTC will also have to perk the F4U-1C, N1K2, Seafire II, Spitfire IX and F6F5.

Each of those planes has a lower 'ENY' multiplier than the P51D, and therefore are more 'uber' aircraft than the stang  

Boy oh boy, is this gonna start something  



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=357th Pony Express=
Aces High Training Corps

[juzz]

The P-51H had NO involvement in the Korean War. Only the F-51D Mustang was used there.

However the P-51H did manage to equip some units during WW2, as did other non-combatant US wonderbirds like the F8F and F7F.

The P-51K was a P-51D made in NAA's Dallas plant with an Aeroproducts propellor instead of the Hamilton Standard. It was slightly inferior in performance.

The P-47M was simply a P-47D-30 airframe fitted with the 2800HP R-2800-57(C) engine with a larger CH-5 turbocharger. The P-47N had the same engine, but it had a larger wing with internal fuel tanks. Both saw combat in significant numbers.

[Tac]

Gimme a P-38K BAAAABYYY!!! =) =)

I agree with perking the P-51D and CHOGs.

One thing is to say "it flew in the war" and "it was the most widely produced P-51 version", but another thing is to put it in a game where people fly fighters from ALL time periods of the war. In the war, you would not see a P-39 in Europe in late 1944... they had been taken out of service by then because their performance SUCKED by then. So in order to keep the "performance" of the planes in the MA balanced, the high performance, late war planes should become cheap perks..and the P-51 should be the first on the list. If this is not done, HTC would just have wasted time coding and implementing early war planes, as no one will fly them.

So my say is, Perk the P-51D, make the P-51B the non-perk... but make the P-51D the "cheapest" perk avaliable.

Now CHOGS should be perked as mid-high perk cost, those megacannon, prayer-answering snapshot kill capability is very unbalancing. The F4U-D should be the standard non-perk bird.

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[maik]

Geez, can't believe it, I do Agree with Cit again   .

Also wanna 2nd Tac's arguments here, well said guys.

Jekyll: Sorry, but I don't see what you are trying to say. ENY will change anyway.

Maik

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[Westy]

 P-56'H': it was a WWII aircraft. It was produced and damn well deployed, well before the signing on the Missouri. Enough said. PERK IT!

 -Westy

[Thunder]

It woould seem the the P51-H would complement the other Perk Rides. Its not an extreme upgrage from the "D Model" and would make a lot of dedicated "Pony Flyiers" become interested in a Perk Ride. As it stand now I have no interest in any other ride then the "Cadilac of the Sky!"

Thunder

[Ice]

Cit...

You are in a Mustang Squad which very seldom flies the pony...especially you

The reasoning you have used makes sense, but I don't care for it due to the fact that the D model was standard issue thru most of the war.

Whatever...HT just do your thing and I'll live with it

Ice

[SKurj]

Jekyll the ENY score is an indication of an aircraft's popularity, not ability.
Yes it can be assumed that the more popular aircraft are typically "better".  I bet you will see the ENY score of the F4u1D change in the not too distant future, by going down from its current 28  

Oh yeah the seafire and F6F likely have a low ENY score because they are new and therefore popular.

AKskurj

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[Jimdandy]

The H model 51 was very late in the war and only 555 were made. Top speed 487mph! Hot piston plane. I think it and the P-47M (top speed 473) would make great perks for the people that fly those planes. BTW I knew a guy that had an H back in the mid 50's. He said it would hang on the prop. You could go vert and stall and the plane would hang there and start rotating on the prop from the torque. Cool   He few it out of the Pasco, WA airport. He sold it cause it was killing him in gas. He would fly it every week end down to AZ to vist a friend for breakfast. I can't remember how long it took him but it was pretty quick cause he'd be home for lunch.

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