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Offline seankill

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« on: May 04, 2004, 08:34:59 PM »
the me262 carrys 24 air to air missles

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 09:40:50 PM »
or 2 500 kg bombs; or 1 50mm cannon.

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2004, 10:41:17 PM »
Rockets.
Not missiles.
Unguided dumbfire bomber-killing rockets.

Good luck hit anything smaller than a bus doing anything more than flying straight and level.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2004, 06:52:32 AM »
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Good luck hit anything smaller than a bus doing anything more than flying straight and level.

In ww2, these rockets were quiet succesfull.
But not in the game. I tried it a lot but never was sucessfull. no one knows how to handle them correct.
Maybe it could help to set the delay time manually with dot command?

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2004, 09:59:53 AM »
In the war, the R4M rockets were used against closely packed American bomber formations to "encourage" them to spread out, to make things easier prey for gunned fighters. That tactic had a fair amount of success, sometimes causing one buff to explode and take out another.

Those rockets on the Bf110g loadout were used in the same way.  Lots of luck finding more than three bombers at a time in the main arena tho.

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2004, 03:26:52 PM »
use em on afk climbing mustangs:D
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2004, 03:46:26 PM »
in gallands book he describes an attack on a marauder formation where he salvo's the rockets into the formation, tears 2 of em apart.

Good thing they didnt get them in 1942-43 eh?
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2004, 04:24:47 PM »
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Originally posted by seankill
the me262 carrys 24 air to air missles


And it's painted in neato green colors, too.

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2004, 07:01:03 PM »
Ever been in Turkish prison ?

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 09:46:42 PM »
use the rockets when something say a pony is trying to rope you. I would suggest launching all at once for more spread shot and more likely to hit something.


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the me262 carrys 24 air to air missles

actually 262s, 190s and ju88s could carry 1-2 Air to Air missles guided by a copper wire extending from aircraft. there were no confirmed kills though

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2004, 10:50:10 PM »
the me262 carries 24 air to air rockets put that on ah2

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2004, 07:12:48 AM »
Yeah, and a b52 with laser guns and nukes.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2004, 07:39:29 AM »
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Originally posted by Raptor01
use the rockets when something say a pony is trying to rope you. I would suggest launching all at once for more spread shot and more likely to hit something.


 
actually 262s, 190s and ju88s could carry 1-2 Air to Air missles guided by a copper wire extending from aircraft. there were no confirmed kills though




Kramer X-4
The X-4, also known as RK 344, was probably the first practical AAM. It had four wings, arranged in cruciform shape, and four small control fins. Two guidance wires were unrolled from spools on the wings. Range was about 3.5km, with the missile preferrably fired from about 1.5km distance. It had a 20kg warhead. Hundreds were test fired, and in some occasions test missiles seem to have been fired in anger. But no X-4 missiles reached operational units.



R4M
This was a simple unguided rocket, with a diameter of 55mm. They were stabilized by eight folding fins. Fighters such as the Me 262 could carry wooden racks with twelve R4M missiles under the outboard wing panels. With a range of 1500m and a warhead of 0.5kg, they were very effective against allied bombers. There was also a version with an armour-penetrating shaped-charge warhead. The R4M was not used on a large scale, but after the war many airforces introduced folding-fin aircraft rockets (FFAR) based on the R4M.


Henschel Hs 298
This was the world's first AAM, but it never entered production. It had the shape of a small aircraft. Like other German missiles, it used radio command guidance, although a wire-guided version was also developed. It was planned to fit a proximity fuse for the 25kg warhead. Over 300 were fired in tests. Range was about 9km.

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2004, 01:13:29 PM »
how many times were the R4M rockets used?
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2004, 04:42:05 PM »
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how many times were the R4M rockets used?



Rocket racks were pretty much standard for the Me262A-1 fighters in anti-bomber configuration (which means, they were almost always fit with them). Can't recall when they started to be standard, but any Me262 flying in 1945 would carry 24 of them. What I'm sure is that JG7 used those rockets, as the JV44 did. In fact one of the reasons why Johannes Steinhoff's Me262 ignited, and he was so badly burnt, after his accident in the takeoff was that the R4Ms on his plane's wings exploded.


The R4M should be included in the Me262 loadout, IMHO.