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Offline Holden McGroin

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« on: May 05, 2004, 05:16:23 PM »
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Controversial director Michael Moore has said film studio Disney is refusing to release his new documentary, which heavily criticises President Bush.
 
Fahrenheit 911 was to be distributed by Miramax, a division of Disney.

But Disney has "officially decided to prohibit" Miramax from distributing the film, the director said on his website.

Moore, who won an Oscar for Bowling for Columbine in 2003, questioned whether in a "free and open society" Disney should be making such a decision.


Aren't they free to make a business decision?

Perhaps they decided that Moore is a hack...

Or perhaps they are trying to stir up some controversy so when they finally do release it many will pay 12.50 to see what the fuss is all about...
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Offline ravells

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 05:18:37 PM »
Good name for a film. Presumably he has consulted Kurt V. Jr?

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Offline lada

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2004, 05:27:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Aren't they free to make a business decision?

 



your world is not that free, it belongs to money
and its logic, if my company will owen other company, sure there exist legal way, how to influence owened company
since you owen company for profit and not for goodness


does it make sense ?
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2004, 05:27:57 PM »
Moore needs to start eating more lettuce and fewer animals.

What kind of bleeding heart is he anyway?
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Offline ravells

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2004, 05:34:54 PM »
The best kind, Saur!

lada. I think I know what you are trying to say, but the profit motive has been part of humankind's history since the beginining of time. How much you are prepared to do to make a profit, well that's another question entirely.

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2004, 05:42:13 PM »
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Originally posted by lada
your world is not that free, it belongs to money
and its logic, if my company will owen other company, sure there exist legal way, how to influence owened company
since you owen company for profit and not for goodness


does it make sense ?


Yes having everything be publicallyb owned like in communism really does help freedom... :rolleyes:
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Offline lada

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2004, 05:48:21 PM »
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Originally posted by ravells
The best kind, Saur!

lada. I think I know what you are trying to say, but the profit motive has been part of humankind's history since the beginining of time. How much you are prepared to do to make a profit, well that's another question entirely.

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sure and i didnt say its wrong.

all i said is, that people are not that free as they appear to be.

In other words, they are slaves of many things.. money for example

when owned company do ignore mother company, i can imagine whole top management w/o job day later.
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Offline lada

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2004, 05:49:13 PM »
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Yes having everything be publicallyb owned like in communism really does help freedom... :rolleyes:


if you say that, it must be true then
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Offline ravells

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2004, 05:52:32 PM »
YES! lada!

What's the alternative?

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Offline MrLars

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 06:04:57 PM »
What is most disturbing about all this is this tidbit from MM's agent:


Mr. Moore's agent, Ari Emanuel, said Michael D. Eisner, Disney's chief executive, asked him last spring to pull out of the deal with Miramax. Mr. Emanuel said Mr. Eisner expressed particular concern that it would endanger tax breaks Disney receives for its theme park, hotels and other ventures in Florida, where Mr. Bush's brother, Jeb, is governor.

Yet Disney feels that Michael Savage is OK to support....interesting.
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2004, 06:07:13 PM »
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Originally posted by ravells
Good name for a film. Presumably he has consulted Kurt V. Jr?

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Now I'm confused. IIRC, Fahrenheit 451 was written by Bradbury.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2004, 06:07:41 PM »
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Originally posted by lada
your world is not that free, it belongs to money...


One is (relatively) free to make a business decision, such as a restaurant deciding to serve Thai food.

This theoretical business, being in an Irish / Italian neighborhood, could suffer negative business consequences but the restaurant is free of government regulation regarding that decision.

Freedom means one can choose.  Whether or not they are profitable choices is up to you.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2004, 06:10:14 PM »
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Now I'm confused. IIRC, Fahrenheit 451 was written by Bradbury.


Quite right. I'm tired and a bit tipsy. All I'm good for is checking the provenances of Mr Black/txmx.

how sad is that?

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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2004, 06:15:16 PM »
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Originally posted by ravells
how sad is that?

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Not so much. It saves me the trouble of trying to figure it out. :)
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2004, 06:17:35 PM »
lol! :aok

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:aok  aaaarrrrrhghhh!
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