Author Topic: Bush changes mind on Isreal. (Read 460 times)

Thrawn · « **on:** May 08, 2004, 12:50:22 AM »

"Withdraw from held lands, Bush urges Israel

WASHINGTON -- U.S. President George W. Bush urged Israel yesterday to withdraw from territory captured in the 1967 Six-Day War and to turn the land over to the Palestinians for a state, responding to Arab and European complaints as Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon pledged to move forward with a virtually unchanged plan to abandon Gaza."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPPrint/LAC/20040507/ISRAEL07/TPInternational/

Cripes he's changing his mind every other day now on policy.

Thanks http://www.osirp.org

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2004, 12:59:38 AM »

IIRC bush has been pretty consistent on the overall goal of creating an independant palestnian state...

So this is a poor kerry comparsion....

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2004, 12:59:50 AM »

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Cripes he's changing his mind every other day now on policy.

Warming us up for Kerry?

strk · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:02:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Warming us up for Kerry?

flip: I support Sharon
flop: Israel must withdraw from the settlements

seriously though it was a good move imo. I wont fault him for it - there are plenty of other bush flip flops out there

NUKE · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:02:43 AM »

I LOVE the Israeli idea of withdrawing from all occupied land. They want to do this and they should. Then when the "Palestinians" continue to murder Israelis, the will have no excuse other than they want to whipe out Israel. At that point, Israel can officially delcare war on them and whipe them out.

AKIron · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:06:23 AM »

No flip flop as I see it. Sharon wants to withdraw from the settlements. Bush supports him. Sharon is getting a lot of flak from Israeli hardliners for his push to withdraw. Sharon can't accomplish anything if he is removed from office.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #6 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:09:52 AM »

FACT: Sharon himself has supported withrawing from settlements and has been shot down from his own parlement/congress (whatever they have)

Truth: Bush has allways supported Isreal and Peace in the region

Myth: Peace will actually be achieved there and that the jews and the arabs will find common ground to acheive it due to cultural differences

Thats about as simplified as I can make it but I think that's pretty close to the mark.

Thrawn · « **Reply #7 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:13:04 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
IIRC bush has been pretty consistent on the overall goal of creating an independant palestnian state...

No, he support Sharon's plan of withdrawning from the Gaza Strip but maintaining settlements in the the West Bank.

NUKE · « **Reply #8 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:17:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
No, he support Sharon's plan of withdrawning from the Gaza Strip but maintaining settlements in the the West Bank.

But... Bush recently said he supported Sharon's plan of "unilateral" withdrawell......which I believe is pure genius.

After Israel pulls out, the "Palestinians" will continue to murder Israeli civilians....yet they will have no "cause" and will be further exposed as the murderous scum they are.

Thrawn · « **Reply #9 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:22:39 AM »

Sharon's plan was never for unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and West bank. Just the Gaza Strip.

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:23:02 AM »

Thanks good Strk, Hope your still around next year. If Kerry wins, I'll be sure to point out every screwed upped thing he does in spades. I'm sure you will enjoy it. Think I'll change my name to MG. And I’ll have fun fun fun Til my daddy takes the T-bird away.

What goes around comes around, I'll tell you why........

Nash · « **Reply #11 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:29:49 AM »

OOh how ominous Gyro!

You obviously weren't here on this BBS during Clinton's reign, but it's just like now - only in reverse. So if Kerry wins you're gonna say bad things about him? Scary stuff! Like we haven't seen it all before.

I'm kinda with Nuke on this... I too think that giving the Pals everything they want won't be enough.

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:35:10 AM »

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You obviously weren't here on this BBS during Clinton's reign, but it's just like now - only in reverse. So if Kerry wins you're gonna say bad things about him? Scary stuff! Like we haven't seen it all before.

Crap, I missed out on all that fun

Damn.....I've got a lot to get caught up on then. Bet it will be a breeze.

Nash · « **Reply #13 on:** May 08, 2004, 01:38:53 AM »

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Bet it will be a breeze.

Absolutely! The best offence is a good defence... and visa versa. Second nature stuff. You'll be amazed at how naturally the transformation takes place.

lada · « **Reply #14 on:** May 08, 2004, 04:07:11 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I LOVE the Israeli idea of withdrawing from all occupied land.

problm with sutch israeli ideas is that they did never ever turn into reality

and now after they agree to do it, 2 days later they fight on Lybian boarder

ideas are polotics, facts are true