Author Topic: time to bring Yak to AH (Read 2004 times)

lada · « **on:** May 08, 2004, 05:51:19 AM »

i were seeking some information about Yak 9U, coz my squadii want to make skin for AH2.. and i found a lot of interesting informations...

like Yak could have 2 bombs, max speed were around 440 mph and so on

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Technology/Aviation_Stunt/AircraftType/YakovlevYak9.html
http://www.aviation.ru/Yak/

and this is only nice link, check out links on their Page
http://www.luftwaffe.cz/index.html

another link saying 9U were faster that 400 Mph
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/christophe.arribat/stofyak9.html

another link reporting ordinance on Yak 9U
http://www.flight-history.com/plane_stats/acModelView.php?makeId=186&makeName=Yakovlev&modelId=411

btw Yak 9U had no SHVaK but MP-20
may be same gun, like Lavockyn have ?

Lazerus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2004, 05:52:42 AM »

Perk the Yak

lada · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:04:47 AM »

well if we compare those information with this, we will find, that HT`s Yak is somehow sloooooww

http://www.flight-history.com/plane_stats/acModelView.php?makeId=186&makeName=Yakovlev&modelId=411
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/charts.pl?vehicle=yak9u

Furball · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:14:35 AM »

couldnt be bothered to read the links, but wasn't the Yak 3 with (vk-103 or something) engine the 440mph one?

Stratocaster · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2004, 06:48:02 AM »

Its a beutiful plane

Edbert · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2004, 11:23:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Lazerus
Perk the Yak

Add 5 perks to everything made in '43, add 15 to everything made in '44 and add 25 to all 1945 planes (over what they cost now).

Shane · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2004, 11:29:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
Add 5 perks to everything made in '43, add 15 to everything made in '44 and add 25 to all 1945 planes (over what they cost now).

i say reverse it... early war planes cost perkies, late war earns them at a higher rate...

this will seperate the common dweebs from the dweebs who think early war planes somehow make for superior fights/pilots.

sort of like the winner of a bet pays.

Edbert · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:12:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
this will seperate the common dweebs from the dweebs who think early war planes somehow make for superior fights/pilots.

Not speaking to the common thought you may be addressing but I do not believe that early planes do not require more skill or make for better fights. In fact an argument could be made to the contrary. What I'd like to see are more fair matchups. What makes for a bad fight is the lack of partiy between an early plane and a late one. 51D versus A6M2 or 202 versus La7 etc., those are boring and pointless matchups. You are a better stick than I am, but if my plane totally outclasses yours then (although I may not get an angle to kill you) I can guarantee you wont get me, so we'll play boom-dodge-zoom until someone runs out of gas. Not much fun for either pilot.

gofaster · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »

Perk anything that can carry more than 1k of ordinance.

Pyro · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:08:29 PM »

The 434 mph top speed figure commonly attached to the Yak-9U comes from a performance test on the first prototype with the VK-107 engine. Tests on production aircraft resulted in a lower top speed than that of the prototype.

Kweassa · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2004, 03:42:43 PM »

The Yak-9U is the fastest Yak variant of the war.

Batz · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2004, 03:53:50 PM »

Its fast but not 434 mph fast.

About 415 mph max for production 9u, what's the AH 9u do? about 415?

So what is this thread about?

BlkKnit · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2004, 04:03:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
The 434 mph top speed figure commonly attached to the Yak-9U comes from a performance test on the first prototype with the VK-107 engine. Tests on production aircraft resulted in a lower top speed than that of the prototype.

ahhh...I have been wondering about that.
thnx

Personally, (to address a different post) I like early war planes well enough in a somewhat equal matchup..but, the same goes for late war planes too.

and, kweassa, info I have (accuraccy is suspect) says Yak-3 is fastest. This is probably at low level though, but thats just a guess. Got any more info?

Kweassa · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2004, 05:26:36 PM »

Yak-9U with a Klimov VK-107A:

*Conservative Figures
575km/h(357mph) @ sea level
672km/h(417mph) @ 5,000m

*Optimistic Figures
600km/h(372mph) @ sea level
700km/h(434mph) @ 5,000m

Yak-3 with a VK-105PF2:

567km/h(352mph) @ sea level
646km/h(401mph) @ 4,100m

The Yak-9U is faster than the Yak-3 both at lower alts and higher alts. It's effectively a lighter, a little bit more maneuverable, at a little lower altitudes version of the Yak-9U. The -9U comes from the "heavy Yak" lineage, and the -3 comes from the "light Yak" lineage.

The 'Yak-3 is the fastest' comments come from performance figures of test bed Yak-3s - about 50 aircraft produced, fitted with VK107A engines. These, never flew in actual combat in WW2.

BlkKnit · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2004, 05:33:34 PM »

ok, cool. wasn't there a yak-3 with a 107 engine?...My book says there was, but again, no certain date of delivery and no numbers in use. 447 mph for that one according to this book. I have certain reservations about most of the stats in it, but its all i have to go on at the moment.

over 400 for the 105 engined yak-3 is pretty impressive IMO

And, thank you sir.