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Offline Udie

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Iraq is not part of the war on terror!
« on: May 11, 2004, 12:22:40 PM »
No how no way!

it's just plain rediculus

Offline StabbyTheIcePic

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Re: Iraq is not part of the war on terror!
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2004, 12:24:44 PM »
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No how no way!

it's just plain rediculus


Al queda is there now, because we are. Easy targets for them. Saddam had no wmds or ties to terrorists before that. That is why it had nothing to do with the war on terror.

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Iraq is not part of the war on terror!
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2004, 12:26:23 PM »
when was "war on terror" given as an excuse for iraq?

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2004, 12:28:04 PM »
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Saddam had no wmds or ties to terrorists before that.



 Dude did you not watch the news before a year ago?  I'm still waiting to see what happened to the wmd we cataloged years ago.  Also he sure as hell did have ties to terrorists.  How many Isreali's were killed by terrorist paid by SH?    He had plane fuselages that terrorist used to train in. THere was an Al Queda group in north western Iraq, known about well before the war.  Get your head out of the dirt man.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2004, 12:30:39 PM »
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Dude did you not watch the news before a year ago?  I'm still waiting to see what happened to the wmd we cataloged years ago.  Also he sure as hell did have ties to terrorists.  How many Isreali's were killed by terrorist paid by SH?    He had plane fuselages that terrorist used to train in. THere was an Al Queda group in north western Iraq, known about well before the war.  Get your head out of the dirt man.


oh, you still think there are wmd's huh? And what about the pentagon declaring that there was no proof of ties to al queda and saddam.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2004, 12:36:49 PM »
Personally, I'm starting to think we should just leave and let these people just live in 12th century chaos as they seem so fond of.

It's days like this that make me want to be an isolationist.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2004, 12:40:25 PM »
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Personally, I'm starting to think we should just leave and let these people just live in 12th century chaos as they seem so fond of.

It's days like this that make me want to be an isolationist.


Do you really think we have a real exit strategy for iraq? Hell the military is argueing within itself because rumsfeld thought we didnt need anymore then 150k troops on the ground while generals that were forced to resign said we needed 300k+.

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2004, 12:41:42 PM »
reguardless of past ties it is closley related to the war on terror now.  

Terrorists who commit acts of "ATROCITY at whim "EXECUTE" an American "HOSTAGE" for "Abuse" of detainees while in US custody.

Kidnapping.....hostages....te rrorism....execution

Compared to:

Prisoner abuse



Hmmmmm both being bad things to do....but who's side should I take on this issue.....hmmmm.....these decisions are tough

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2004, 12:43:47 PM »
while generals that were forced to resign said we needed 300k+.
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where did you get this from?

Are you saying hussein has never had or ever wielded a weapon of mass destruction?  Are you saying he had them once upon a time but got rid of them?  If so where did they (WMDs) go?

wtf are you saying?
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2004, 12:45:30 PM »
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reguardless of past ties it is closley related to the war on terror now.  

Terrorists who commit acts of "ATROCITY at whim "EXECUTE" an American "HOSTAGE" for "Abuse" of detainees while in US custody.

Kidnapping.....hostages....te rrorism....execution

Compared to:

Prisoner abuse



Hmmmmm both being bad things to do....but who's side should I take on this issue.....hmmmm.....these decisions are tough


Quagmire all the way. Way to get us into another vietnam bush.

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2004, 12:46:23 PM »
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while generals that were forced to resign said we needed 300k+.
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where did you get this from?

Are you saying hussein has never had or ever wielded a weapon of mass destruction?  Are you saying he had them once upon a time but got rid of them?  If so where did they (WMDs) go?

wtf are you saying?


He had them back in the 80's, and they were destoryed by us in the gulf war. I am saying that he didnt have them at the time of our invasion last year.

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Re: Re: Iraq is not part of the war on terror!
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2004, 12:46:33 PM »
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Al queda is there now, because we are. Easy targets for them. Saddam had no wmds or ties to terrorists before that. That is why it had nothing to do with the war on terror.


Have you had your head stuck in the sand for the last 10 years?

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Our war on terror begins with al Qaida, but it does not end there. . . . we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. . . President George W. Bush, Joint Session of Congress, September 20, 2001
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Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers -- a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families. In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 -- a bonus for the families of 'martyrs', to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel. . . . Fox News, March 26, 2002
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This general served Saddam Hussein for decades. Along with another Iraqi defector, Sabah Khodada (see below), the general tells of terrorists training in a Boeing 707 resting next to railroad tracks on the edge of Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. The existence of the plane has been confirmed by U.N. inspectors. The general describes the men who trained there, the camp's security, and his "gut feeling" that the camp was in some way tied to the Sept. 11 attacks. Iraqi Lt. General, PBS and New York Times Interview, November 6, 2001
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A captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992, he worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. In this translated interview Khodada describes what went on at Salman Pak, including details on training hijackers. He emigrated to the U.S. in May 2001. Sabah Kodada, Iraqi Army Captain, PBS and New York Times Interview, October 14, 2001
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An investigation by Frontline confirmed that Iraqi intelligence had trained at least forty Islamic terrorists between 1995 and 2000 in how to hijacking airliners using a Boeing-747 that was originally Kuwaiti property. Frontline, PBS, November 14, 2001
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Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens. . . . Congressional Resolution Authorizing Force Against Iraq, October 15, 2002
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Shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks, a group of al-Qaida fighters left Afghanistan and set up shop in Iraq as a backup base, according to a report in today‘s Los Angeles Times. Osama bin Laden‘s jihadists established such a base in town of Al Biyara and nearby mountain villages where Kurdish militants had begun imposing the strict Islamic rule much like Afghanistan‘s ousted Taliban regime, according to the Times report. While this base is further evidence of Saddam Hussein‘s recent support of al-Qaida, documented by many intelligence sources over the last 10 years, Iraq is attempting to maintain plausible deniability with regard to the bases – suggesting they are outside the control of the government in Baghdad. Intelmessages.com and Los Angeles Times, December 9, 2002
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The British also released a dossier on Iraq which claimed that at least two key Al-Qaeda lieutenants underwent training inIraq. The dossier also confirmed that Iraq was paying Al-Qaeda to use its Ansar forces based in northern Iraq to attack the Kurdish forces. Reuters, September 14, 2002
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Simply no basis for action

Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2004, 12:46:57 PM »
Complain complain complain.  That's all I've heard out of stabby.  Lets bash the administration and offer no solution.  Typical libral tactic.

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2004, 12:48:23 PM »
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Simply no basis for action


Nope  none.....i saw it on TV so it must be true.