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Offline -MZ-

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« on: May 11, 2004, 05:03:22 PM »
Anyone else remember the debate where Bush promised not to block RU-486?



LA TIMES EDITORIAL
Politics of Contraception
 
Election-year concerns trump science in FDA decision to keep "morning-after" pill off the shelves. Many women will suffer because of this misguided move.

More than 70 of the nation's leading medical and public health groups backed a proposal to let women buy emergency contraception without a prescription.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration's own advisory panel, after reviewing 40 studies and 15,000 pages of data, overwhelming recommended over-the-counter status for the so-called morning-after pill.

Use of this pill would cut the number of abortions in this country — a goal President Bush ardently embraces — and millions of women who have used it by prescription since 1999 have found this drug to be safe and effective in blocking unwanted pregnancies.

And yet it's an election year, and many of Bush's supporters insist that broader availability of the pill would encourage promiscuity and unsafe sex.

So when FDA leaders overruled their own scientific advisors to reject over-the-counter sales Thursday, politics once again trumped science, despite their avowals to the contrary. The decision echoes this administration's big-footing of scientific evidence on stem cell research and environmentally safe levels of mercury and arsenic.

The agency has, however, left open a path that would let women eventually obtain this drug more easily — after the November election — and the pill's maker should pursue that opportunity.

In a letter to manufacturer Barr Laboratories, the FDA said the company had failed to prove that girls younger than 16 could safely use the drug, which it markets as Plan B, without guidance from a doctor or nurse. Until Barr can satisfy the agency that Plan B is safe for teenagers or present a plan for over-the-counter sales to older women and more restricted sales to 14- to 16-year-olds, the FDA has blocked all over-the-counter sales.

Barr says it will pursue these options, but even if it acts quickly, approval probably won't come for a year, long after November's votes are counted.

Emergency contraceptives contain a concentrated dose of the hormones found in birth control pills. Taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, the pill prevents pregnancy by delaying ovulation, blocking fertilization and inhibiting uterine implantation. But the drug is more effective if it is taken within 24 hours rather than 72 hours.

That's why California and four other states permit pharmacists to dispense it without a prescription if women ask.

But surveys show that few pharmacies in California stock the pill and few women know to ask for it. Over-the-counter sales would give far more women access to this drug, especially on holidays and weekends. For now, however, FDA leaders have left a lot of women in a difficult, and unnecessary, spot.

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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2004, 05:13:19 PM »
Just more republican big brother antics. They claim to be for personal freedom, but only if it meets the criteria of the Christian Coalition.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2004, 05:20:28 PM »
Yeah, it HAS to be politics, it COULDN'T be incomplete research data submitted to the FDA now could it?


From the FDA website:

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May 7, 2004
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FDA Issues Not Approvable Letter to Barr Labs; Outlines Pathway for Future Approval
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today acknowledged that it has issued a “Not Approvable” letter to the sponsor of an application to make the Plan B emergency contraception product available without a prescription. In its letter to the sponsor, FDA outlined the additional information that would be required to gain approval to market Plan B over-the-counter.

FDA based its action primarily on the lack of data concerning OTC use of the product among adolescents younger than 16 years old. The sponsor’s application contained no data in subjects under 14 years of age and very limited data in adolescents 14 to 16 years old.

FDA’s letter to the sponsor notes that the application does not provide adequate data to support use of Plan B by young adolescent women without the intervention of a physician. The letter also points out that the sponsor’s March 11th amendment of its application to allow marketing of Plan B by prescription only to young women under 16 years of age was not complete. As a result, the agency was unable to do a complete review on that amendment during this review cycle.

Dr. Steven Galson, Acting Director of FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research (CDER), said “Although we did not have sufficient data to approve this application now, I will be working toward the expeditious evaluation of Barr's response to the Not Approvable letter. If Plan B is approved for nonprescription use, it would dramatically increase access to this product and will represent an important incremental step forward in contraceptive availability in the United States. Wide availability of safe and effective contraceptives is important to public health. I look forward to supporting CDER's important continued role in ensuring improved availability of these products."

Although U.S. law prohibits FDA from discussing pending applications because they contain commercial confidential information, in this instance the sponsor of Plan B, Barr Research, has allowed FDA to comment in general terms on the status of Barr’s application to make Plan B available as an OTC product, and on the agency’s action.

The official rejection letter from the FDA:

Rejection Letter in PDF format

Sounds like to me all they have to do is complete the research and all will be approved.  

Yeah, again it's Bush's fault.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2004, 05:23:33 PM »
LOL diablo,

WOW I just love this whole attitude "fix everything w/ a pill".  I dont need to work out....I can sit on the couch eating potato chips while masturbating and not gain a pound.  I can go out and have as much unsafe sex as I want and that whole little pregnancy problem just goes away.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2004, 05:31:41 PM »
So far as I am concerned, if it is completely safe or as safe as any other over the counter drug then it should be approved.

Weren't there some really bad effects from the drug reported tho?  

If it is a "moral" issue then it should still be sold over the counter and each person can decide his own "moral" obligation.

Make sure it's safe and then market it.   That's all there seems to be to it.

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2004, 05:34:32 PM »
Or just let the people consuming it decide for themselves whether the risks are worth the benefits in their individual situation.  

Why should an adult woman care if it hasn't been proven safe in minors?  Research shows it's safe for her, so she should have the option of taking it.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2004, 05:40:39 PM »
Severe side effects and risk.  The issue for otc is kids, in my opinion, that are too stupid to assess and assume those risks.

Morally, I think it is the best idea since, well, birth control pills.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2004, 05:41:43 PM »
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Why should an adult woman care if it hasn't been proven safe in minors?  Research shows it's safe for her, so she should have the option of taking it.


Agreed.  I have no problem with that.  But I can't fault the FDA for wanting more research before making OTC and available to women of all ages.  There are plenty of mom's out there who will get these for their daughters if lil "Britney" pouts enough.  Think about the litigation on that; if lil "Britney" has an allergic reaction to the pills and goes comatose...yeah, I can see the lawyers lining up for that one because not enough research was done by the sponsor of the pill.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2004, 05:45:11 PM »
Has it really been shown to be "over the counter safe" for women over 16?  

Over the counter is pretty loose... the ephedrin thing was "over the counter"... How long before it was pulled?  

What is wrong with getting a perscription for it untill it is proven safe?

I don't see anyone trying to stop people from using it on moral grounds here.

Hard to believe that something that radical could be that safe that it could be sold to anyone regardless of their physical conditon or pre-existing conditions.

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2004, 05:46:32 PM »
Lizking, kinda agree with ya there. I don't personally have any religious convictions or moral aversion to abortion, so the only concern I have over this drug would be it's accessibility to minors.

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2004, 06:18:28 PM »
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Just more republican big brother antics. They claim to be for personal freedom, but only if it meets the criteria of the Christian Coalition.


It can't be true. Only the democrats make laws protecting us from ourselves. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2004, 06:41:31 PM »
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Or just let the people consuming it decide for themselves whether the risks are worth the benefits in their individual situation.


I'm sure there a gaggle of lawyers that would just love that.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! It made me sick! I'm an instant Lotto winner.

Waaaaaaaa!!! It made me sick! How could Bush allow this on the market.

Waaaaaaaaa!!! I'm a fat slob! It's McDonald fault.


Shall I go on?

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2004, 06:42:45 PM »
I think I already did Gyro.  LOL.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2004, 06:45:14 PM »
lol, and here I am thinking they approve everything. You see ads for all kinds of pills on TV. Common side effects are diaria, vomiting, severe stomache cramps, loss of blood circulation, loss off vision, possible amputation of limbs(or extra limbs growing), migrain headaches, and liberal thinking.
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2004, 08:05:36 PM »
^^^^^^^

You’re right, please feel free to beta test them for me. Or would that be Alpha? Could be worth a future guest star slot on the Ricki Lake show. :)


I forgot one.

Waaaaaaaaaaa!!!! My reproductive rights are being denied!!! My ovaries are mush!!!