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Offline boxboy28

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« on: May 12, 2004, 02:36:29 PM »
http://rense.com/general52/historyofthemiddlefinger.htm

History Of The Middle Finger
Is This A Myth?
Forwarded By Dave Nelms
5-12-4


Giving the Finger
 
Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous weapon was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew" (or "pluckyew").
 
Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! "PLUCK YEW!" Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute!
 
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird."
 
And yew thought yew knew everything
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2004, 02:42:08 PM »
Myth.

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2004, 02:43:11 PM »
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Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2004, 02:43:20 PM »
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Originally posted by boxboy28
And yew thought yew knew everything


As of 11/2003, yes, I know everything. :D

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101724

Offline CyranoAH

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2004, 02:47:20 PM »
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http://rense.com/general52/historyofthemiddlefinger.htm
And yew thought yew knew everything


Obviously yew didn't know Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm

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Offline frank3

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2004, 03:18:26 PM »
Nonono boxboy actually has a good item there! This could very well be true!

But I do recall the English sticking up 2 vingers (but not the peace sign like this -->   \ /       <--) and making a rather load and annoying raspberry sound :)

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2004, 03:29:42 PM »
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Obviously yew didn't know Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm

Daniel


But *who* is verifying snopes authenticity! :confused:

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2004, 04:21:09 PM »
Oh the horror Rip, who is verifying everything we hear in the news?!? :confused: :eek:

Snopes has a reputation. If someone has information that proves that what they say is wrong, they rectify.

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Re: Re: Re: history of the flipping the bird
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2004, 04:27:34 PM »
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But *who* is verifying snopes authenticity! :confused:


Sources:
    Axtell, Roger E.   Gestures: The Do's and Taboos of Body Language Around the World.
    New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1991   ISBN 0-471-53672-5   (pp. 33-35).

    Keegan, John.   The Face of Battle.
    New York: Penguin Books, 1978   ISBN 0-140-04897-9   (pp. 78-116).

    Opie, Iona and Moira Tatem.   A Dictionary of Superstitions.
    Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1992   ISBN 0-19-282916-5   (p. 454.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2004, 04:31:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
Sources:
    Axtell, Roger E.   Gestures: The Do's and Taboos of Body Language Around the World.
    New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1991   ISBN 0-471-53672-5   (pp. 33-35).

    Keegan, John.   The Face of Battle.
    New York: Penguin Books, 1978   ISBN 0-140-04897-9   (pp. 78-116).

    Opie, Iona and Moira Tatem.   A Dictionary of Superstitions.
    Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1992   ISBN 0-19-282916-5   (p. 454.


But who is verifying THESE sources?! :confused:

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2004, 05:07:04 PM »
C'mon Rip. You have reduced yourself to schoolyard arguement tactics now. :rolleyes:
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Stay thirsty my friends.

Offline Sandman

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: history of the flipping the bird
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2004, 05:09:18 PM »
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But who is verifying THESE sources?! :confused:


Snopes. :p


You're free to refute them if you like. Pack a lunch. I'm betting you'll be awhile.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2004, 05:11:52 PM »
Keegan, John. The Face of Battle.
New York: Penguin Books, 1978 ISBN 0-140-04897-9 (pp. 78-116).

Excellent read if you're interested in the psychology of warfare and warfighters.

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2004, 06:54:26 PM »
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C'mon Rip. You have reduced yourself to schoolyard arguement tactics now. :rolleyes:


WHO is verifying that they're ACTUALLY schoolyard arguement tactics!?:confused:

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2004, 10:11:43 PM »
It's been too long since I left the schoolyard, so you're on your own. :D
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