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« on: May 14, 2004, 10:58:01 PM »
Shiite Shrine Damaged in Najaf Fighting

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By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer

NAJAF, Iraq - American tanks firing shells and heavy machine guns made their deepest incursion yet Friday into this stronghold of a radical cleric. Apparent gunfire slightly damaged one of Shia Islam's holiest shrines, prompting calls for revenge and even suicide attacks.



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In response, cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's militiamen attacked U.S.-led coalition headquarters in Nasiriyah, trapping international staff and some Italian journalists inside. Explosions and gunfire rocked Karbala, and al-Sadr's top aides threatened to unleash more attacks across the Shiite south and in Baghdad.

"We will fight and defend the holy shrines until our last breath," al-Sadr said in an interview broadcast late Friday by Al-Arabiya television, widely seen throughout the Middle East. "We are not controlling any holy shrine — we are defending these shrines."

Several large explosions and the roar of high-flying aircraft could be heard in Baghdad before dawn Saturday. The U.S. command issued no statement and the cause of the blasts was unknown.

The fighting around Najaf, the most important center of Shiite theology and scholarship, unnerved the country's Shiite majority, including members who have disavowed al-Sadr and worked with U.S. authorities.

Hamid al-Bayati, spokesman for a mainstream Shiite group represented on the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council, called the fighting a "big mistake" that could inflame sectarian passions. He urged both sides to mediate an end to the standoff.

At least four Iraqis were killed and 26 wounded Friday in Najaf, according to Haidar Raheem Naama, a hospital official. He said most were civilian. One coalition soldier was wounded, U.S. officials said.

At least three militiamen also were killed, and their coffins were brought to the Shrine of Imam Ali for family and friends to pray for their souls.

"America is the enemy of God," fighters shouted.

Explosions and heavy machine-gun fire rocked Najaf for hours, and bands of gunmen carrying assault rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and mortar tubes roamed the city. After a lull, sporadic firing resumed as night fell.

Four holes, each approximately 12 inches long and 8 inches wide, could be seen on the golden dome of the Imam Ali mosque, burial place of Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, the Prophet Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law and the Shiites' most revered saint.

The mosque, in the middle of Najaf, is about 100 miles south of Baghdad on a high desert plateau overlooking the world's largest cemetery.

Militia members blamed the Americans for the damage to the mosque, but Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Iraq (news - web sites), said al-Sadr's men were probably responsible: "I can just tell you by the looks of where we were firing and where Muqtada's militia was firing, I would put my money that Muqtada caused it."

During the crackdown on al-Sadr's al-Mahdi Army, U.S. forces have been careful to avoid damaging shrines for fear of enraging Iraq's Shiite majority. They have attacked mosques where insurgents have set up fighting positions.

At a press conference in Baghdad, Kimmitt pointed to a map of Najaf and said a U.S. convoy might have been fired on from the cemetery as it moved near the shrine. If so, those rounds could have hit the shrine, he said.

Kimmitt accused the militia of using religious sites "much like human shields." He said American forces had not initiated the fighting but were responding to attacks by al-Sadr's gunmen.

That did little to assuage the anger of many Shiites in Najaf. By early evening, thousands gathered around the Imam Ali shrine to inspect the damage. Some shook their heads in disbelief. Others mumbled prayers.

   

"The Americans had better leave Iraq after this," said Jassim Mohammed. Another man, Abu Zahraa al-Daraji, added: "The Americans have crossed a red line."

Al-Sadr's aides called on their followers to rise up against the coalition. His representative in Nasiriyah, Sheik Aws al-Khafaji, threatened attacks on coalition forces there, most of whom are Italians.

After his threat, armed men attacked coalition headquarters in Nasiriyah, about 200 miles southeast of Baghdad. They fired at least five rocket-propelled grenades within a half hour as Italian troops and Filipino security guards fought back.

About 10 coalition staffers, including Italians, Americans and Britons along with 10 drivers and security guards were trapped in the building along with four Italian journalists, coalition officials said.

"It's an inferno," Maria Cuffaro, a journalist for Italy's state-run RAI network, said during a brief live report on Italian television late Friday. "We're all OK, if a bit shaken."

Explosions and gunfire also rocked another Shiite holy city, Karbala, as U.S. soldiers clashed with al-Sadr's militiamen. Shops were closed and residents stayed off the streets.

In Baghdad, aides to al-Sadr urged followers in Sadr City to travel to Najaf to reinforce the militia. Al-Sadr's representative in the southern city of Basra, Sheik Abdul-Sattar al-Bahadli, said he would form suicide squads to carry out attacks on coalition forces and urged residents to register for the squads starting Saturday.

And in the southern city of Amarah, al-Sadr aide Farqad al-Mousawi warned Iraqi police and civil defense corps members that they risked assassination if they helped U.S. soldiers fight al-Sadr's militia.

Japan's Kyodo News service reported shooting and an explosion late Friday in Samawah, a southern city where Japanese and Dutch troops are based. The shooting started after armed, masked al-Sadr supporters began sealing off downtown streets. One Iraqi security officer was killed, Kyodo said.

Al-Sadr launched an uprising against the coalition last month after U.S. officials announced he was wanted for the April 2003 murder of a cleric in Najaf. He lacks the spiritual stature of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, and his confrontational tactics have exasperated moderate Shiites.

However, al-Sadr commands the support of thousands of mainly poor, urban Shiites who admire his father, a grand ayatollah who was killed by Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s agents. Al-Sadr has also capitalized on hostility toward the coalition following revelations of abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers.

Despite the fighting, al-Sadr delivered a sermon at Friday prayers in Kufa, another holy city that lies six miles to the northeast of Najaf, as he has for the past four Fridays.

Al-Sadr described President Bush (news - web sites) and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) as "the heads of tyranny" and accused them of ignoring the suffering of Iraqis in coalition prisons while drawing attention to what he described as the "fabricated" case of Nicholas Berg, an American civilian who was beheaded by militants.

In other developments:

_ The U.S. Army announced criminal charges, including adultery, maltreatment of detainees and committing indecent acts, against Military Police Cpl. Charles A. Graner in the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal. He will be arraigned May 20. Three other military police face charges in the scandal.

_ The United States freed 293 Iraqi detainees from Abu Ghraib. The coalition periodically releases detainees from the prison, which now holds more than 3,000 prisoners.

_ A U.S. military supply convoy was attacked 25 miles north of Baghdad and one fuel tanker was destroyed. Iraqi youths danced and cheered around the burning vehicle as they displayed family photos, presumably the driver's.

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2004, 11:00:41 PM »
Oops.

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2004, 11:06:42 PM »
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"America is the enemy of God," fighters shouted.


This kind of statement always gets a good laugh out of me. Seems like god blessed his enemy pretty generously.

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2004, 11:08:38 PM »
The mosque, in the middle of Najaf, is about 100 miles south of Baghdad on a high desert plateau overlooking the world's largest cemetery.

LOL how Ironic.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2004, 11:09:58 PM »
You would think that maybe they would get the idea that lopping off the head of an innocent American was maybe not a good idea.

But then again they aint that smart.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2004, 01:30:48 AM »
Well maybe you'll get idea that attacking/occupying an arab country was not a good idea after all.


or maybe not  :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2004, 01:38:48 AM »
Sure they want us to attack the holy sites, thats why they are fighting from them.  Destroy the holy sites, what the hell.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2004, 01:56:16 AM »
How come we don't say "the holy city of New York"?

After all, St. Patrick's Cathedral is there and all.

"On Sept. 11, Islamic nutbags attacked the holy city of New York......."
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2004, 02:21:11 AM »
Is this an actual sincere display of indignation?

Or are ya just letting some steam off?

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2004, 02:22:08 AM »
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Is this an actual sincere display of indignation?

Or are ya just letting some steam off?


I take it you are opposed to blowing up the mosques?

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2004, 02:23:51 AM »
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I take it you are opposed to blowing up the mosques?


Not really.

How do you feel about it, pal?

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2004, 02:27:23 AM »
Iraq needs killshooter.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2004, 02:29:17 AM »
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Not really.

How do you feel about it, pal?


I'd prefer if they were just used for prayer, it would make everything much much simpler in a very big way...

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2004, 02:34:16 AM »
Are you talking to me? Are you talking to ME?

I'm just wondering.

What makes a city a "holy city"?

I mean, to hear the US media, about half the cities in Iraq are "holy cities".

Do you just need a big famous church, or what?

I'm actually a devout twine-ist and I have to admit I do refer to "the holy town of Cawker City" when I explain my religion to seekers after truth.

Cawker being the home of the world's largest ball of twine and all.
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2004, 02:35:25 AM »
And when you do have a "holy city"...... is all of it "holy"? Even the sewers? Or just parts of it like the churches?

Do people get to walk on "holy streets" or do the faithful levitate so as not to soil the holy paths?

Just curious.
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