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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2005, 12:22:04 AM »
Explain to me why the republican cronies have rubber stamped gas price gouging just done by their constituent oil companies by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.

The gas I paid 3.40 a gallon for went into the ground at that station 2 days before the storm.

Screw you, miserable republicrat partisan pinheads... Allaya. Both sides of the isle. You don't even know when you've been screwed.. and even hop on the bandwagon sellin the vasiline to make it easy for 'em to really ram it in there.
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2005, 12:25:42 AM »
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"If Im elected President, I will make peace in the Middle East, balance the budget, and gas will be free.  Im John Kerry, and I've approved this message."

"Paid for by the Friends of Kerry, North Korea Chapter."


If I'm elected president I promise to nuke the middle east and declare it to be a state called Glassas, annex Canada, declare Australia the West Island of New Zealand, and send all the stray cats and dogs to North Korea in a generous humanitarian gesture (and disband this SPCA).

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2005, 12:36:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Explain to me why the republican cronies have rubber stamped gas price gouging just done by their constituent oil companies by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.

The gas I paid 3.40 a gallon for went into the ground at that station 2 days before the storm.

 


The gas that is dropped into their tanks at the current price will be sold at a lower price later. It is a give and take scenario based on crude oil future markets. They don't sell their tanks dry, it's a continuing market.

I know what you are saying and agreed with you up until recently.

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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2005, 12:37:44 AM »
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by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.


This is not true.

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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2005, 12:44:31 AM »
oh horsecrap. You can pay accounting games, or you can play apologist cheerleader for a corrupt politcal lobby.. either way, you got screwed, I got screwed, we all got screwed.

Take yer sharp pencil and do something productive with it.

Tell me the number of gas stations in the US.

Tell me the amount of fuel, on average is in the tanks of those stations on any given day.

Tell me how much they paid for it on Sunday, and how much we paid for it on Tuesday.

Now tell me who's got all that freakin money.

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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2005, 12:50:55 AM »
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Can we all step back for a moment and let Swager answer Ripsnort's valid question?

I'm sincerely interested to hear why and how the next Republican president would generate higher gas prices and the next Democrat president would be able to cause gas prices to dip sharply lower.

Swager, please do enlighten us.

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check out the date of the original post.

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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2005, 12:57:50 AM »
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Explain to me why.......a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.



There was a law passed that made refinery construction or rebuilding cost prohibitive. America lost over half of its oil refining capacity over twenty years or so. The refineries that were left work at 100% or more on a daily basis to supply America with the many types of mixtures of gasoline required in all the states. They cannot support the demand and the cost of production goes higher and higher. Suddenly about 17% of the refinery production, some say about 50%, is taken off the market. The result is what you see. The blame is on the laws that restrict rebuilding and constructing of new refineries in such a way that they are not profitable at current fuel prices.

The environmental wackos that don't see the forest for the trees they are hugging are the ones to blame.



Kyoto Treaty?


Our air is cleaner than it was 15, 20, 30 years ago. We have stringent emission laws in this country. There are even reports that the lack of pollution is causing global warming. Of course I feel the same about them as I do about the ones that say we are cooking our planet. We do just fine policing ourselves in regard to atmospheric pollution. The regulations in place controlling refinery construction, ANWAR drilling, and a few other areas have swung the pendulum to far in the other direction. It's time to pass regulations based on real science, not bipartisan theory designed to garner votes.

BTW, I hold no stock in any oil company or oil refinery. My wife and I drive a total of 26 miles to work each day and we own two cars (not the evil American SUV's)

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2005, 01:01:08 AM »
Your goverment surcharge 5 cents/galon for  Irakian peoples, money out from your pokets, but doesn't give you a  temporary tax break on fuel in this situation.
 Time to wake up guys!

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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2005, 01:17:56 AM »
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Your goverment surcharge 5 cents/galon for  Irakian peoples, money out from your pokets, but doesn't give you a  temporary tax break on fuel in this situation.
 Time to wake up guys!


Yup, that's the problem.

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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2005, 05:38:12 AM »
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There was a law passed that made refinery construction or rebuilding cost prohibitive. America lost over half of its oil refining capacity over twenty years or so.


It simply isn't true.

US refinery capacity was at 18.6 million barrels a day in 1981, it's was at 17 million barrels in 2004.

The number of refineries has dropped sharply, with small ones being closed, but capacity hasn't declined much, as the larger ones have been expanded.

And that comes at a time when oil production in the US has declined very sharply. In 1994, the US was capable of refining 1.83 times it's own oil production. In 2004, the US could refine 2.35 times it's own production.

Refinery capacity isn't the problem. The problem is a large rise in demand, and production has taken some time to catch up. On top of that, uncertainty is driving prices higher, as there is no spare production capacity, and any disruption in supply (eg Iraq, Iran) will lead to much higher prices.

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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2005, 07:28:25 AM »
some points
1. Gas is twice as high as it was last year. Do I make twice as much to cover the cost? No. Inflation is outpacing income because its jacking the price of everything up since the transportation companies aren't gonna eat the added cost, they're gonna pass it on to the consumer..

2. The price of gas went from 2.49 to 4.00 overnight here on Cape Cod because one Johnny Iraqi (yes, he's an iraqi and his stores are all called 'johnnys') owns almost every gas station in this section of the Cape. Was it the same gas as the day before? Yes. He used a natual disaster to make a killing and I'm sure a lot of others did the same.

I'm still unsure why we're in Iraq because we're not even benefitting from the oil there. What happened to the perks of invading a defenseless country? :rolleyes:

I guess the good news is that we're doing such a bangup job that I dont think people will wanna immigrate here in a few years. Maybe Mexico will start using militia to keep US refugees from crossing their borders.
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2005, 07:44:04 AM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2005, 09:27:07 AM »
I dont care who you are or what you believe, this is funny!  :)

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« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2005, 10:31:55 AM »
That was funny..soon I will be AWOL because I won't be able to  afford to drive to the base
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« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2005, 10:37:34 AM »
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So please do bless us with a more analytical answer for if I was able to perdict a devistating hurricane when I first posted this thread with my psychic abilities, I would be a rich man.



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