Author Topic: Flak ack attack!! (Read 626 times)

Citabria · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:22:13 PM »

if it could be limited to a 3 mile radius above the cv it would be fine.

its the being targeted when your not even targettign the cv and flying in a furball that is annoying as hell.

whats worse is when its your cv and your furballing and the enemy your chasing is targeted by flack and the flak kills you instead of the enemy because you were right on their 6.

thats happened to me more times than i care to count and its even worse than dying to enemy flack because the bandit you were about to splash gets the kill on you because of idiot cv ai gunners who cant hold their fire for thrats targetting the cv.

Paul33 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:25:50 PM »

I like the "should be manned" idea.

dedalos · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:56:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
if it could be limited to a 3 mile radius above the cv it would be fine.

its the being targeted when your not even targettign the cv and flying in a furball that is annoying as hell.

whats worse is when its your cv and your furballing and the enemy your chasing is targeted by flack and the flak kills you instead of the enemy because you were right on their 6.

thats happened to me more times than i care to count and its even worse than dying to enemy flack because the bandit you were about to splash gets the kill on you because of idiot cv ai gunners who cant hold their fire for thrats targetting the cv.

Friendly fire is not friendly. Just like in real life. Ack gets me e few times a week but always after I have been flying through it for a long time. I don;t see what the big deal is. Its part of the game. I died on noe missions after comming over a mounten only to find a train right in front of. You know what happened after that. Should we remove those too?

vorticon · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2004, 04:11:39 PM »

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whats worse is when its your cv and your furballing and the enemy your chasing is targeted by flack and the flak kills you instead of the enemy because you were right on their 6.

but it could stop ack running!

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2004, 07:21:15 AM »

Noticing we have no HTC guys in this thread maybe gettin rid of the puff ack is out of the question (darnit) ...

Maybe citabria has the best idea with limiting the range??? What say you htc guys??

dude

Lazerus · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2004, 09:09:09 AM »

I think, but i'm not sure, that the 'puffy ack' is a random set of explosions around your plane when you're flying through the range that is set up for the guns. No amount of manuevering will help you avoid it.

If it was set so that it would follow your route, as if it was being fired at you from a distance and they were trying to lead you, then it would be possible to lower the chances of getting hit.

Just knowing that it is possible for me to avoid it would lessen my aggrivation whenever it does pop something I really need.

MetaTron · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2004, 09:28:28 AM »

The AI 'puffy' ack isn't quite what it should be if it is intended to kill buffs. The 'puffy' ack tends to wait until a plane has been within the radar coverage area for a bit before firing. If you attack a cv from the bow direction you can get over the cv before you ever hear any ack firing. I think radar directed ack with men in 'battle-station' positions would be firing a lot sooner.

RTR · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2004, 09:59:32 AM »

Ack is doing what is is supposed to do IMHO.

I have never seen it continue "20 miles away".

It is basically a barrage of shrapnell that is exploded at your altitude (or near it), and the intent is for you to fly through it and take damage. Works pretty much like it is supposed to.

If it had to be manned in order to work, we would never see carrier groups. They would all be sunk as they spawned, as they would have very little protection. (How many would devote thier time in AH to manning them on a CV?)

As far as the lethality of it, don't hang around in the middle of it.
Get in, get the job done and get out. In other words, you pays your dollar, you takes your chances.

I have no problems with it. I have been killed by it and have flown through it unscathed. It adds a bit of "pucker factor" to the sortie.

Cheers,
RTR

Gruuug · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2004, 10:15:46 AM »

Got you beat on the wierd Ack hits....

Last night I was running around on the ground (on foot, no vehicles...) after being shot down and got killed by Ack.....

I actually had the thought to see if I could take over one of the Acks and use it on thier own planes :-)