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Offline gofaster

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« on: May 20, 2004, 10:35:01 AM »
Interesting tidbit from my local paper.  Tiger stripes sounds cool, but the article didn't include a picture.

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New Uniforms Are Not Routine For Air Force
By RICHARD LARDNER rlardner@tampatrib.com
Published: May 20, 2004


 
 
A ir Force leaders are pushing ahead with plans to outfit personnel with new combat fatigues, which seems like an innocent enough undertaking.
Far from it. In fact, a previous attempt to outfit the air troops in new togs crashed and burned. More on that in a moment.

Right now, nearly 600 personnel at nine Air Force bases are modeling the tiger-striped utility uniforms of blue, gray and green.

The fatigues not only look and feel good, according to Air Force brass, but they're made of a more durable wash-and-wear material. This saves time - and potentially saves the wearer $180 to $240 each year on dry cleaning.

The new design also would give the Air Force a distinctive look. Airmen now wear the same woodland-pattern fatigues the Army uses - too much of a reminder, it seems, that the air service was once part of the ground service.

``We wanted something that was uniquely Air Force,'' spokeswoman Jennifer Stephens said.

Assuming the ``wear test'' goes well, the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. John Jumper, could designate the tiger stripes as standard gear by the end of the year, Stephens said.


`The Manly Man'

To understand how controversial changing uniforms can be, take the catwalk back to the era of the Air Force's ``Manly Man.''

In October 1990, Gen. Merrill McPeak took over as chief of staff. A hard-charging fighter pilot, McPeak wanted the Air Force to become the dominant military service branch.

In pursuit of that vision, McPeak wanted the Air Force organized around, and run by, fighter pilots like him. For those who flew bombers and cargo aircraft, this was a bitter pill to swallow.

McPeak thought changes in appearance were needed, so he ordered a redesign of the blue dress uniform. Among the most significant changes, epaulets were removed and rank insignia was put on the sleeve.

If McPeak's goal was to be distinctive, he scored. The result was a cross between what a bus driver and an airline pilot would wear. One officer privately complained he looked like Ralph Kramden.

Perhaps McPeak's most controversial move, however, was to ban the wearing of crew neck T-shirts under the open-necked, light-blue uniform blouse. McPeak thought the combination was unkempt. V- neck tees were acceptable.

For rank-and-file airmen, however, this was more of McPeak's machismo run amok.


More Chest Hair

A series of underground ``brown papers'' began circulating inside the Pentagon poking fun at the general. In them, his reforms were mocked as ``The Emergence of the Manly Man.''

``What this type of undershirt hides is the amount of chest hair of the USAF member,'' one paper says of the crew-neck decision. ``The implication, of course, is that the more chest hair, the better.''

McPeak retired in November 1994. His replacement, Gen. Ronald Fogleman, wasted little time in reversing many fashion decisions.

No doubt aware of the previous backlash, Jumper has said feedback from the troops is essential before a change is made. The Air Force will establish a Web site soon so airmen can offer opinions.

Although far from scientific or official, an informal Internet poll of more than 600 Air Force officer candidates found close to 30 percent ``love'' or ``like'' the new fatigues; a whopping 50 percent said they ``hate'' the new tiger stripes or would wear them only if they must. The final 20 percent weren't sure.

``Nothing is set in stone,'' Stephens said. ``We don't want to make changes if the airmen don't want them.''


I hope the uniforms don't look like this:


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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 10:37:39 AM »
Actually, I found a picture after all:




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Stone and Sullivan
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New uniform with Air Force logo
ANDREWS AIR FORCE BASE, Md. (AFPN) -- Tech. Sgt. Thomas Stone (left) and Capt. Rachel Sullivan, both with the 89th Maintenance Group here, give the optional Henley-style T-shirt a try while putting the test utility uniform through its paces on the flightline here. The blue, gray and green tiger-stripe camouflage ensemble includes many new features intended to increase functionality while providing a distinctive look for the 21st century airmen. The uniforms will undergo wear-testing beginning in January 4. Airmen from a cross section of Air Force career fields will provide feedback on the fit, durability and functionality of the proposed ensemble which will come in men's and women's cuts. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Jim Varhegyi)

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 10:51:00 AM »
Well, that new Air Force uniforms look weird and I like old Army Air Corp uniforms during before Korean War.  

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 10:57:06 AM »
Those uniforms make me want to say:

El Presidente we will slaughter the guerillas!! Off to our surplus american armored cars!  Viva El Presidente!! Viva Chiquita bannana company!!!

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 10:59:06 AM »
THEY ARE HIDIOUSE!

Most of the USAF thinks the same way.  My whole contention is that most of the USAF are Air Craft Maintainers....they are the back bone of the Air Force.  There is NO REASON whatsoever that somone needs to be camoflauged while working around Air Craft.  My opinion....give me some coveralls makem blue.  I want a taxiing A/C to see me not run me over because he cant see me

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 11:12:47 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Those uniforms make me want to say:

El Presidente we will slaughter the guerillas!! Off to our surplus american armored cars!  Viva El Presidente!! Viva Chiquita bannana company!!!


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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 11:14:06 AM »
Just better make sure you're not walking on apron or any other asphalt/concrete surface at dusk, night or dawn.. that'll be the perfect camo for those.
Instead step on the grass and you'll be lit like a torch... although heavy rain might make a difference even with the grass.

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2004, 12:58:21 PM »
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My opinion....give me some coveralls makem blue. I want a taxiing A/C to see me not run me over because he cant see me


LOL! Can't make any more sense than that.

Wha't next on the list, Black Berets :rolleyes:

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 01:03:48 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Those uniforms make me want to say:

El Presidente we will slaughter the guerillas!! Off to our surplus american armored cars!  Viva El Presidente!! Viva Chiquita bannana company!!!


I agree with him....I think they also look similar to some uniforms ive seen from Taiwan i think it was.

Not bad looking tho.....just differrent than i would expect.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 01:18:35 PM »
Heck, BDUs that are dark blue with no camouflaging would be best...they ain't in combat anyway. :)

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2004, 01:51:27 PM »
I presume the pattern is so they can hide in the sky?!:(

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2004, 01:56:41 PM »
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I presume the pattern is so they can hide in the sky?!:(


you mean like stealth?


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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2004, 01:57:43 PM »
belt loops built into the blouse..sexy..lol

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2004, 02:06:02 PM »
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I presume the pattern is so they can hide in the sky?!:(


I guess that's to make it harder to shoot their chutes.

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2004, 02:30:33 PM »
Looks like they got a special deal on leftover Street Fighter the Movie costumes.