Need assistance with selecting a hunting rifle

[VOR]

Well...I wasn't going to poke fun at your local traditions, even tho I thought it was really out there.

[BUG_EAF322]

M60 with multiple rocket launcher.
That will learn em rabbits.

[Jester]

Depends on what you are hunting and where you hunt.

In open territory I would have to go with the REMINGTON Model 700 Bolt Action. One of the most accurate hunting rifles there is. 7mm Mag. or if your hunting Moose - go with the .300 mag. Price for ammo will kill you though.

If you are hunting in heavily wooded territory where ranges are short you can't beat one of the SKS or AKM rifles. the 7.62x39 bullet (same as .308) has alot of stopping power. They are dirt cheap and nearly indestructable. Both hunting ammo SP & HP and SMJ for target practice can be got for almost nothing.

You will have to buy a 5 round clip for it as most places it is against the law to hunt with a rifle that will carry more than 5 shots.

[Jester]

Originally posted by wipass
It is impossible to hunt with a rifle, crossbow or bow and arrow.

If you have to kill something (which I find distasteful) then grab a knife and do it, stalk your quarry and fight it and maybe even put your self at risk of injury.

Makes me laugh when people talk about hunting with a rifle

wipass

I know this an OBVIOUS troll but I just can't help myself.

You obviously haven't been in the woods lately have you Wipass?
You should get out from behind the computer screen aand try it - might make a new person out of you. Don't believe all that CRAP PETA and that crowd spews - it's not as easy as it appears.

Get out and track them and you will see this. I will agree with you many abuse the sport but there are many that don't kill stuff unless they are going to EAT IT. If I kill something he goes in the freezer!

BTW - you CAN "hunt" with a bow. I have killed 4 Deer with them (one was even with an English Longbow!).  One I tracked all day into a Pine Grove and hit him at 90 yards. Damn sure seemed like "Hunting" to me. I didn't set in a tree waiting for him to come by.

If you are ever in Arkansas look me up and I will show you the difference between "Hunting" and "Shooting." You act right and I might also show you how to fish useing Dynamite.  

[LLv34 Jarsci]

Things seem to be getting a little sidetracked....

I have found that in Finland .308 is used, next is 30-06 and 9.3x62 is gaining ground fast. I think I go to 9.3 or 308.

308 has inexpensive ammo
9.3 has good stopping power.

Check out Tikka T3, thats what I think I'll get.

Prices are ridiculous thought (780€)

[flakbait]

Jester, you're way off on that one. 7.62x39 is otherwise known as 7.62 intermediate, while .308 is 7.62x51; a much larger round. The velocity and energy differences are pretty big too. 2200 ft/sec with 1612 ft-lbs muzzle energy for the 7.62x39 versus 2820 ft/sec and 2684 ft-lbs muzzle energy for the .308. Both using a 150 grain spire-point bullet. Given the choice, I'd prefer the .308; an extra half-ton of muzzle energy and 400fps faster.



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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta Six's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High

[Holden McGroin]

Advice from a bowhunter:

Get the gun that has the most :
 
1. Rate of fire
2. Muzzle velocity
3. Stopping power

Get the most lead out as far away as fast as you can.

[wipass]

jester, it's not a troll

I'm a veggie,  

can't see the fun in killing somehow

wipass

[Ping]

Even plants are living things. You just commit vegiecide.

[Ping]

Ive heard that a 308 will tend to shock the meat alot more than a 30 06 will. With the advantage going to the 30 06 in varying rounds available.

[VOR]

I'm a veggie

How ironic! So was the steak I ate last night!

Actually, to each his own. I'm sure you have your reasons.

If you have to kill something (which I find distasteful) then grab a knife and do it, stalk your quarry and fight it and maybe even put your self at risk of injury.

I stabbed a mouse last year with a knife. Was sitting in my mouse-infested tent when one happened to get close enough and I happened to get lucky. Looking back on it, I could have cut myself badly or been bitten, but what a rush! From now on I'm only hunting with Ninja weapons.

[VOR]

Ive heard that a 308 will tend to shock the meat alot more than a 30 06 will.

Really? Why? Not following...

[flakbait]

I think the reverse might be true on that one, Ping. The 30-06 (7.62x63) is a touch faster with a hair more energy than any .308 round. The amount of shock damage between the two would probably vary more based on bullet type than which caliber you used.



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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta Six's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High

[Shuckins]

Jester,

You're from St. Charles, Arkansas?  Sho nuff?  I'm originally from Dermott.  Living in Monticello now.

LLv34...if price is no object...and if EYE were looking for a new rifle I would find a competent gunsmith to build the following...

Purchase a Ruger #1 or similar single-shot, falling-block action.  Purchase one of those beautiful barrels that Mannlicher puts on their rifles and carbines...the hammer-forged ones where the hammer marks have been left on the exterior of the barrel, jeweled and blued.  Attach a nice, elegant, two-piece French walnut stock with 24 line per inch checkering.  Drill and tap for scope, if you want, or have the gunsmith put a nice, macho, set of iron sights on it.  Sling and rings.

As to caliber...your preference.  Personally, I like the 6.5x55 Swedish shooting a 140 grain Nosler partition.



Regards, Shuckins/Leggern

[Leslie]

I've heard the falling block action is the strongest action there is.  When hunting large game, if you need more than one shot, you probably missed anyway.



Les