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Offline Stegahorse

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« on: May 23, 2004, 12:26:57 AM »
and is still missing is the PBY.
It could carry troops, torps, depth charges, bombs, defend itself and so many other things.
Yet no one has modelled it for game.

It would be cool to have troops and sit out on the water somewhere waiting for the opportunity to capture a base.

It was versatile and famous!

What you think?
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2004, 02:23:23 AM »
its useless... unless you mean the PB4Y privateer.

pby catalina has almost no useful defensive armament. those lousy side blisters wont save you nore will that 30 cal in the nose. it holds about as much bombs a b5n2 kate and aside from the fact that it is one of the coolest lookign planes ever and lands on water its entirely useless if you want to use it for any purpose other than being a target in the MA or CT. for naval battle events requiring recon to spot enemy shipping a PBY catalina would blow the roof off the immersion factor



however the PB4Y privateer was a low alt navalized B24 with formidable defensive guns, heavy bomb load and good speed at lower altitudes.

these things travelled alone into hostile territory and fended for themsleves.

short of adding a B-29 you wont find a more formidable bomber than this thing.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2004, 03:18:06 AM »
I'd rather  see a H8K2 Emily..

 The pitiful JP plane set is probably the single largest drawback of AH.

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2004, 03:44:30 AM »
Atleast there is a Japanese plane list, There is still not a single australian aircraft...

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2004, 07:30:21 AM »
Emily or mavis first, much better defensive firepower than the rest, much better bomb load.

I would eventually like to see Black cats.
some of those guys hung a LOT of firepower in the nose of those ships. Granted they still low slow lumbering targets. But for pure immersion a black cat running a moolight raid on enemy shipping.

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2004, 08:11:54 AM »
Bring 'em on, all three of 'em: Emily, Privateer, Catalina ... and of course the Sunderland too.  

They will be mostly low and slow targets but so gorgeous.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2004, 10:19:18 AM »
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Atleast there is a Japanese plane list, There is still not a single australian aircraft...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far as I know Australia didn't have any naval aircraft (except for catapulted Seagulls) until 1948, well after WWII ended. And those were Sea Fury's and Fireflies.

And I do believe that the ground aircraft consisted of British planes, mossies, etc. Which I THINK had British markings with an added set of stripes on the tail section.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2004, 01:34:48 PM »
they had a peice of junk called a boomerang..totaly usless

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2004, 03:01:37 PM »
Piece of junk?  I like the boomerang!  Would be neat to have - kind of a cross between a Brewster and a Hellcat.  I don't know of any other game that has it modelled :)

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A total of 250 Boomerangs were built by CAC, and due to the later availability of fighter aircraft from the UK and USA, the Boomerang was not required to face the technically superior Japanese fighters at high altitude. Instead it was employed in Army co-operation duties where its manoeuverability at low level and 20mm Cannon made it ideal for strafing and target marking.

The Museum’s example was delivered in January 1943 and served with No 83 Squadron, being written off in 1945. It’s remains were discovered in Queensland in 186 by Hawker de Havilland Victoria, who acquired it, and later donated it to the Museum in 1994.

Engine:            14 Cylinder radial 1200HP Pratt &
                       Whitney Twin Row Wasp

Length:            25 feet   6 inches    ( 7.77 m)

Span:               36 feet   0 inches    (10.97 m)

Height:             10 feet   6 inches     ( 3.20 m)

Weight:            5,373 pounds (empty)  ( 2,437 kg)

Speed:             190 mph   (cruise)         ( 305 kph)

Range:             930 miles         ( 1,496 km)
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Yeah it was a speed demon :p
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2004, 03:39:24 PM »
A hurri mk1 out runs that thing!

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2004, 04:28:50 PM »
Commonwealth Boomerang
CA-12 to CA-19 Boomerang
(data for CA-12)


Orgin: Commonwealth Aircraft Corportation, Australia

Type: Single-Seat fighter

Engine: 1,200hp Pratt&Whitney R-1830-S3C4G Twin Wasp 14-cylinder two-row radial.

Weights: Empty 5,450lb (247kg), loaded 7,600lb (3450kg)

Performance:  Maximum speed 296mph  (474km/h); service ceiling 29,000ft (8845m); range at 190mph (304km/h) 930 miles (1490km)

Armament:  Normally, two 20mm Hispano cannon and four 0-30in Browning machine guns in wings.

History: First flight 29 May 1942; first delivery August 1942; final deliveries, early 1944.

User: Australia


Development: When Australia suddenly found itself in the front line, in December 1941, it had no modern fighters save a few Buffaloes supplied to the RAF in Singapore.  To try to produce a stop-gap quickly the Commom-wealth Aircraft Corporation at Fishermen's Bend, Melbourne, decided to design and build their own.  But the design team, under Wing Commander Laurence J Wackett, was severely restricted.  The new fighter had to be based on the fimiliar North American trainer series, which since 1938 had served as the basis for the excellent Wirraway general-purpose combat machine and trainer, of which 756 were made by CAC by 1946.  Moreover, the only powerful engine available was the 1,200hp Twin Wasp, judged by 1942 to be much too low-powered for first-line fighters elsewhere.  Despite these restrictions the resulting machine was tough, outstandingly manoeuvrable and by no means outclassed by the Japanese opposition.  Wackett's team worked day and night to design the CA-12 in a matter of weeks and build and fly the prototype in a further 14 weeks.  Testing and production went ahead together and, as there were no real snags, the first of 106 CA-12's were soon fighting in New Guinea.  These followed 95 CA-13's with minor changes and 49 CA-19's, as well as a CA-14 with turbocharged engine and square tail.  Boomerangs did not carry bombs but often marked targets for "heavies" and undertook close support with their guns.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2004, 04:40:24 PM »
Thanks spivey.   The data I posted mentioned 190 mph at cruise, that prolly lead to some confusion :)
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2004, 09:04:01 PM »
Heh, Thanks guys for supplying the information, Im attempting to acquire the stats of a boomerang owner. He owns the Ca-15 Boomerang and its fully restored, i had a slight talk with him before and he seemed to have some great material and books.I know this version had the Super-Charger from what i've read and id like to see what kinda advantages that came with. Ca-12 Variants seem to have the easiest stats to acquire, whilst the others are somewhat scarce.

( I think this plane would be a great lil' attack plane. And wouldnt need excesive speed since it wont be running, but bringing the fight to the oppnet)

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2004, 09:25:43 PM »
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Originally posted by Citabria
its useless... unless you mean the PB4Y privateer.

pby catalina has almost no useful defensive armament.

For that matter, neither does the C47.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2004, 09:31:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Stegahorse
and is still missing is the PBY.
It could carry troops, torps, depth charges, bombs, defend itself and so many other things.
Yet no one has modelled it for game.

It would be cool to have troops and sit out on the water somewhere waiting for the opportunity to capture a base.

It was versatile and famous!

What you think?

Im with ya Stega.
Seems like every "I think a plane for the game" thread is started, we all take liberty to hijack the thread and add the Plane we think the game needs. Im not going to do that to ya.
 In staying with your Threads subject. I think this would be really awesome too. It would add a gammit of excitement to Troop hauling that we have never see before. Along with other things. This would be refreshing.
Nice suggestion :aok