IS THE CHOG AND NIKI BULL**** FINALLY KILLING AH?

[Wardog]

LOL Westy..

last night a34 was under heavy JABO attack by Rooks. I was defending the field, no vultching  

And Karnak is right, after 9 kills i had 1 hot rearm under fire, i rupped a34 under a cap and got 3 more kills. By this time the Rooks where getting a little pissed at me and i am sure that they all where hunting my Typhoon  

None the less, this was a fun sortie. Even though i had very few parts left on her and i tore my gear off trying to land before being kilt, but i was still to fast for the belly landing.

It made for an interesting film..

Dog out..

[Westy]

 Good cod, in a Typhoon?  I would have switched sides or flew there just to have watched  that. Most impressive sir <S>  

-Westy

[Karnak]

Wow.  9 kills on 1 ammo load.

Most impressive, Wardog.

Do you use all 4 cannon at once, or 1 pair at a time to extend ammo duration?

Sisu
-Karnak

[Wardog]

Karnak..

I use all 4 at same time, my convergence is set to 400 but i hold off on trigger usually well under 300. 1 or 2 short burts and if i dont think ill get the hit ill just pass on the shot and try to line up next time around.

Keep in mind the guns on the Typhoon are spread out quit a distance unlike the F4U-C1 so spray & pray just dont work. Also long distance shots will not work,unless the con is on auto & on the terlet  

Mostly its a challenge to fly & a con magnet, as anyone who see a Tiffy dives right for it. This alone makes it an interesting ride.

Dog out...

[llbm_MOL]

Fly a JUG and be a real man. I eat Chogs and Niki for lunch in my P47-25.......... Low Hi it dont matter and a well flown Tiff scares me ALOT more than a damn Niki or Chog. Its a damn popularity issue. A few A__holes start talking crap about a plane and the rest of em just jump on the bandwagon. Then you start hearing crap like " you only kilt me cuase you flew an UBER plane" yadda yadda yadda...... You got your but into a situation you couldnt pull it out of and you typed before you cooled down. I know this cuase I am very guilty of it most of the time. I dont like to die anymore than anybody else. Face it....there will always be planes the morale minority dont like. I dont let it stop me from flying them if I feel like it.

LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by llbm_MOL (edited 11-21-2000).]

[NUTTZ]

LLB, I fly the Jug also, and Now the Jug is the 'NEW" uber plane in the MA ( according to some) I couldn't believe the talk last night how 'Uber" the Jug is. Niki's and spit's I fear not, strapped in my Jug, but there are a few great 109,  190  and tiffy pilots i fear.

I abandoned the Chog,and Niki because of all the smack talk ( never flew the spit) and so i picked the Worse ride in the arena. NOW this has become the latest "Uberplane rideofdweebsonlybecausetheyca n'tgetakillanyotherway". Eventually there will be no planes other than UBER. So i popped in a c-47 .... and got 2 kills,,LOL now what do i fly?????

NUTTZ

[NUTTZ]

Funny, i just checked my stats for tour 10 in the P-47 30d Seams i am doing FREAKIN GREAT!!!!  the only thing that i have more deaths against than kills is Ground vehicles.. Now thats funny wasn't the jug used primarily as ground pounders?

I am tearing up lanc's and 26's, but the b-17 gets me good, whats a good way to attack them?

NUTTZ

[Ozark]

No

[Westy]

 Beam attacks on the 17. If I can I come at them from the direction of thier wingtips. If I can I'll even HO the base porking bastidge from a low 12 position: Coming in fast, go low and come up suddenly at the last minute and give em an eight fifty cal round house in the chin.

 -Westy

[StSanta]

I make slicing attacks from 10/2 o clock, get really close at really hi speed, open up, do a climbing turn and repeat.

Not fail safe though.

On lancs my favourite is the head on attack from a slightly lower position to avoid being fired on by the top turret.

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}

[llbm_MOL]

Like StSanta said. 10-2 hi to low attacks. It makes the pilot have to jump from gun position to gun position to find you. Come in hi straffing and go low come back up and over. he has to jump to 3 diffrent positions to get a shot at you. I attack if I have plenty alt on them from almost on top them comming straight down and I aim for the cockpit. I will do a direct stright up attack after that. NEVER attack a buff from his 6! If you can help it....but sometime ya gotta doit  

LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by llbm_MOL (edited 11-22-2000).]

[Rickenbacker]

I might have whined about the Chog and Niki in the past, but since I started checking 6 now and they I haven't been killed by one of those at all this tour. Now a well flown Yak is _really_ dangerous, and ManedeW can do some damage in his Typhoon too  .

 

[Maverick]

This controvery is never ending. It isn't about the chog nd niki guys. A couple versions ago it was the 190's and the 109's. This situation will NEVER go away as long as there in a mix of a/c in the arena with differing perormance and guns. You want a level playing field? Then we have to all fly the same plane or modify the FM so all planes fly the same. That kinda negates any pretense to historical accuracy though.

If ya don't like the MA there are a few things you can do.

1. Quit, either temporarliy or permanently.

2. Drop out of the MA entirely and fly the scenarios or TA.

3. Just forget the whole thing and fly what ya want and pick your fights with care to avoid those "other" planes.

Either way, this subject is over modeled and perpetual.

Mav

[Yeager]

Count me with the folks that feel too much energy is retained in 1.04.

Its a typical situation: 1.03 didnt provide nearly enough enregy retention and 1.04 allows too much energy retention.

Its a typical "somewhere in between" type fix as far as I can hazard to judge.

In any event, I prefer too much E to too little...gives more room to maneover.

Yeager

[Jekyll]

Well, after last night I sure won't be engaging any Nik's again  

Situation:  we're down low, maybe 1000 feet.  I'm in a P51 closing on the tail of a Nik.  I'm going 350, he's doing 300 or so.

At 600yds, he goes into a break turn to the left, slightly nose low.  I drive to the corner then pull into a 2g vertical zoom climb.  Check 6 only to find that the Nik has completed his circle, gone vertical in the zoom and is GAINING ON ME!

I hold the vertical zoom climb and watch him.  At 600yds on my FE he opens up with his 4*20mm and neatly removes my wings.

I mean, how much of an E advantage do you need against these guys?????