IS THE CHOG AND NIKI BULL**** FINALLY KILLING AH?

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

Feel free to interpret that statement to any degree you want. But basically, who thinks if the current chog and niki "issues" driving people away from AH and reducing the realism of AH? Or generally reducing your like of the AH MA environment.

thanks GRUNHERZ

[Greg 'wmutt' Cook]

Nibble nibble, arghh... hook sunk!  

About three months or so I took a leave of absence because of time issues.  This same argument was being tossed around back then.  I find now that I'm back, that there are indeed more people online than when I left, so I think the answer is no.  Some will leave, more will sign up.  That is the nature of these things.  I used to eat cannon shells all the time from the Chog. (I have always loved the F4u, and I fly the D model often.  I have to admit, that I would probably fly the C model but for all the people that would whine about it, so I just use it for jabo.)

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Greg 'wmutt' Cook
332nd Flying Mongrels

[Westy]

 While I think their may be an anomoly or two  in a few aircraft FM's I do not believe any aircraft are ruining anything.  ALL these aircraft have a human behind them pushing the buttons and throwing the stick to and fro. There isn't some "AI" algore-rythm at work here. So if the MA is no fun, blame the players, not the smoking gun. Although I do believe every fighter should include a child proof lock.

 Let's be honest. If it was not the Niki and the F4U-1C it would be the Spit IX and the 190-A5, the 205 and the Typhoon or the 109-G10 and the P-51. Simply put, what you see is the character of many of the people, not the plane.

  -Westy

[discod]

I agree with Westy.  If you think about it, the only way to get a totally "fair" arena is to have everyone fly the exact same plane.  So if "fairness" is what you are looking for, then it sounds like we are moving in that direction.    he he he

And besides like I always say.......
If life were fair we'd all be fairys!  

<NOTE: This opinion was paid for by the "Save the CHOG Foundation">

[hblair]

Well flown Typhoons scare me a helluva lot more than hawgs and nikkis do.

[Ripsnort]

Hey, if it ain't the Hog or Niki, next in line would be it...for every 'action', there is an opposite and equal 'reaction'...Chog? get one and kill it...Niki? same applies.

[Westy]

P-47 Thunderbolt !!!!


  Kills CHOGS DEAD


 

[-ammo-]

well, I believe the answer is definately a Big Fat NO. The F4u-c and the N1K are exceptional AC but they are not invincable.

-- ammo has 20 kills and has been killed 10 times against the F4U-1C--


I had a guy got bent at me the other night. That particular night I decided to fly the F4U-c, very rare for me. we met and had a good fight which I ended up with the victory. HE called me a "HO DWEEB"   Actually he made a mistake and I capitalized on it. I invited him to the TA to teach me a few things and we had a few good matches but I think i proved that I wasn't a HO dweeb We flew the pony and the zeke.

Its all about peoples perceptions. If these guys that are leaving arent enjoying themselves, then I think they are right to leave, no reason to spend $30.00 of their hard earned money and not enjoy the product. I read something Ripsnort had posted some where else which i agree with completely. "'I've been that position'...thus, I learned, carried on with life, took the sims much less seriously." Good advice if ya ask me.

JMO

ammo

[Vulcan]

No issues with the Chogs ... just those damn UFO n1kis that piss me off. Turn on a dime, lose no E, accelerate from an E-less start like its got quad JATOs strapped to it.

[Sancho]

Don't let the Chogs and N1ks get you down.  Have fun and fly whatever you want in the Main Arena.  For historical matches, see: http://events.hitechcreations.com

Fly scenarios!

[washout]

 

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
But basically, who thinks if the current chog and niki "issues" driving people away from AH and reducing the realism of AH?

Grun,

IMHO there are too many who are too quick to get upset about being shot down by hog or niki drivers.  Why not jump in one and shoot them down?  Heard heaps of people say "I can't bring myself to fly spit/niki/hog"...  This is stupid.  If the other plane is good enough (in RL or AH) that a dweeb can kill you with it, imagine what a good stick can do in one.  I've seen some really good pilots in hogs and nikis along side the dweebs.  If the weapon is effective use it, don't whine that your 109/190/yak/p51/p47 cant turn with it...

Anyway, that's just my opinion.  (Please note that no personal attacks are intended here  )

[Yeager]

All other issues aside, I wish the cannon armed Corsair had not been added.

However, I still enjoy this sim.

Yeager

[Creamo]

Honestly, it isn't the aircraft, (or shouldn't be for Gods sake) because a Tiffie is the beast of the MA,  or even a P47 with the right guy in it. The "no E bleeding 1.04 vers. 109G10" stomps a Niki all over in case you haven't flown against that little toejam Nath and his twin brother Hblair.- (lol to myself)- And if that doesn't convince you, fly a Niki vs. a Spit9. Its suicide. I hate seeing them Spits, and there was one guy I never ever did beat who flew a Spit...ever. (DMF maybe I think)

Come to think of it, unless its a long staight shot at my 6 shot as your hauling bellybutton outta dodge or a HO from a F4UC, most often the Hogs suck brown round. I will admit CHOGS in the new 1.04 FM are MUCH better angle fighters. Still, no reason at all to fear, or worse yet piss moan or quit about them.

Only thing that makes sense is Mitsu departing until they get MORE a/c ala JPN. Saving $30 a month till they get your ride that you think rocks in there like WBS seems reasonable.

What your seeing in regard to people fleeing is a constantly updated product in a lull period, and people getting frustrated. They are just posting, and 90 days later (oh the annals of time!) it will be just a long lost post and they will be bombing your carrier talkin smak with the rest of the community. Well, actually, a few of the departures were whiny little tards stomping their feet, but still...

Same toejam happened in the long wait for 1.04, it took forever, and people expected a Xanadu of WWII flight sims. Didn't happen. I bought a Voodoo5, upgraded my processor, learned the new FM as best I could, and have wasted alot of my free time since!

I hope anyone that quits comes back, and says "hey, Im a tard, got bent, sorry."I sure hope so, cuz I like Zigrat announcing that he killed me on open channel like it's a victory of a lifetime. It pisses me off to no end, and I have a mission for the rest of the night. Plus, Im a better pilot and will win.

Time for Monday Night Football

[funked]

I tell you what makes me want to quit.
It's the idiots who constantly flood the chat channels and message boards with unfounded uneducated whining about flight models and weapon models.  It gets REAL old.  I rejoice every time one of those guys quits.  Good riddance.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 11-20-2000).]

[milnko]

I've no problem with the F4UC or the N1K2, although I've not been logging on as much anymore either, I am seriously considering   deleting my account, but I haven't taken that step yet.

For me it's a lack of diversity, AH has alot of late war American iron and little late war AXIS tin.

I'm a dweeb, I admit it, I want a 190d to match the P-51d, I want, a Me410 to match the P-47......as it stands now the AXIS has little in the way of JABO planes, or high preformance A/C. I suppose ya could count the 109g10 as late war, but only because of it's engine............

Just my personal feelings on the topic.


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"Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant"
-WW1 German ACE Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen

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