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Offline Waffle

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« on: May 20, 2004, 03:16:05 PM »
OK - last week I came home and fired up my PC - nothing - no fans, no clicks..no sparks...nada.

Figured it was a power suppy issue - picked up a new power supply. Put it in.
I pulled all cards and drives off the mobo and checked that out...
processesor fan turned on and ran for 1.5 seconds...then shut down.

Tried various configs to see if some hardware / memeory was causing the shutdown. Finally ended up with mobo/ processor only... same thing. Shut down after 1.5 seconds.

Well I had been wanting to upgrade, so I used this roadblock as an excuse to pull the trigger.

Orders on the way - AMD64 3200 / Gigabye GA k8NS pro mobo.

So Now, while waiting..I decide I need to recover some info off my hard drive so I can do a fresh install.

 (I will actually have 4 HDs in new pc, on 1 - 40gB for os, 1 40 gb for my work crap/documents, 2 - 80 gb for audio. I was thinking of doing these in array or striping, but I need the space, not speed-least right now.)

Anyway - I pulled my HD from the pc thats down and put it as a slave in another pc here for data recovery...figured it'd recognize it as another disk and i could just pull the files from old disk to the one that's in the "surrogate" pc.

Well, It recognizis the files..least I see the icons/directories..but when I try to open them, I get "drive is not accesible, and the old
damaged or corrupted message.


The HD that im trying to get the data from came from an AMD athelon PC and Is now sitting in a P4 pc...
Whne the p4 boots up..it say i need to run chkdisk on it....I tried doing that, but I saw "deleting orphan files"....what the hell is that?


I hope that's not my data getting tossed. Anyway - If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it.

I am also planning on trying the same thing with the AMD setup once I get that all put together and up and running - maybe see if it will recognize the drive/files...


ugh...I have all my photshop skins / tons of reference photos scans / 3-views on this disk....lol not to mention legit work stuff.


Thanks in advance,
Waffle

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 03:41:13 PM »
Waffle, go buy a 40GB HD and use it as the primary on the new system.  Then make the old HD the secondary.  Changes are the data is intact, but the OS files are all whacked trying to move from one motherboard to another.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 03:51:23 PM »
Thanks Skuzzy,

Thats what I'm planning on doing - I already have another 80gb otw with the Mobo/processor...

But, in case that doesn't work anyone know of any recovery software (freeware/shareware) that might be of assistance?


Hopefully all my parts come in by monday :)

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 05:33:29 PM »
Skuzzy - should I have both drives installed before I fire it up for the first time? Then install XP on fresh one?

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 05:39:32 PM »
No.

Install the OS on the new drive, then install the second drive.  If you have the second drive installed, then Windows might find the partition and try to use it as the primary drive.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 08:37:36 PM »
Primary first...install OS

slave second....recover data

your OS is goin to ask you to IDENTIFY slave.....
« Last Edit: May 20, 2004, 08:41:10 PM by SLO »

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2004, 04:05:04 PM »
Indentify slave?

I guess I'll know it when I see it.

Thought Jumpers were used on the back of hard drive to select primary/seconday...or cable select.

Anyway - by fedx tracking - stuff should be here monday...lol

Stay tuned :)

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2004, 07:59:10 PM »
Well - the new pc is up and running...

Did fresh install of XP, then SP1, then chipset drivers.

I connected the Harddrive that I'm trying to recover infomation from in and booted the pc up.

It recognized it as a slave drive, and I got to "my computer" and clicked on the icon for the drive and saw the folders that I wanted to recover the information from.

When the mouse cursor was over the icons, it popped up with "Folder empty". I clicked on the folder and got an error about not being accessable or corrupted.


Any clues what to try now...lol

Up the proverbial creek with out a proverbial paddle?

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2004, 08:43:20 PM »
hmm

32bit or NTFS files?

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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2004, 10:18:55 PM »
Waffle,

Can't help with the data recovery, but wanted to ask you what you think of the AMD 64 3200 and mobo combo so far?  

I am looking at the very same CPU right now (have green light from the wifey to upgrade).  I havne't decided on a mobo yet as I'm still reading up on the comparison tests, but so far I'm eyeballing the Aopen AK89-L, Gigabyte GA-K8VT800,  MSI K8T-NEO-FSR, ABIT KV8, or the Asus K8V.

I've pretty much ruled out any of the nforce 3 chipset boards (even the nForce 3 250) as the reviews don't seem to favor them much.

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2004, 11:13:44 AM »
I have that system.... you will be very happy with the Nvidia Nforce3 250 chipset.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2004, 03:45:41 PM »
Well, Evidently I can't recover the data.... Tried using chkdisk in windows - no dice..

Anyway, I found a majority of the skins that on my Audio drive. (sorta like a back up..lol) ...don't know what I was thinking...premonition?

Anyway I lost an A6M that was done and a 262 fueselage as well as a lot of data and photos for reference.

Oh well sometimes you just gotta start fresh sometimes.


Anyway the AMD64 is nice... I haven't had much time to mess around with it though.

I went into AH2 with the video card I have now (Radeon 9600) and tried that -All settings maxed out help a FR of 60 on the ground - even in smoke.

It never dropped below 50.


I stil have some upgrades to do - Right now I'm using my old ram, 1.5gb pc333, and I would like to get a new video card for grins - to see what this will do.

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2004, 06:37:48 PM »
Hey, here is a link to a program I am using to recover data off of a defective scsi drive.  So far it has work flawlessly for me.  

http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/download.htm

As long as the drive is recongnized it should work.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2004, 08:04:01 PM »
6Gun....no I won't...'cause I ain't gettin an nForce 3 250 chipset board :D

Goin with a K8T800 chipset......