Author Topic: Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats  (Read 813 times)

Offline AKDejaVu

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5049
      • http://www.dbstaines.com
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« on: June 01, 2001, 08:47:00 PM »
 

And sorted by K/D (WTG! Yak drivers):

 

Top 10 killers will be posted tomorrow evening.

Still trying to figure out how to work an FDP slam in here... too drunk though.

AKDejaVu

Offline janneh

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 136
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2001, 06:02:00 AM »
Hi!
Good work as always AKDejaVu!
P-47D-11 seems to do quite well there.
But it'll drop as I'm going to fly it on this tour  

 

Offline Hangtime

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10148
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2001, 06:08:00 AM »
My MY! Three of the top 6 birds... Luftwhiners!

<S!>
The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

...at home, or abroad.

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18780
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2001, 08:09:00 AM »
thanks AK <S>

time to perk the niki and spit IX

 

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Professor Fate

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 167
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2001, 09:06:00 AM »
And 7 of the top 10, are allied opportunists What does it all means Pee Wee?   I DON"T KNOW!

lazs

  • Guest
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2001, 09:44:00 AM »
LOL... now, instead of one plane being used twice as much as all the others.... We have 3 planes being used twice as much as all the others.
lazs

[This message has been edited by lazs (edited 06-03-2001).]

Offline bloom25

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1675
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2001, 10:31:00 AM »
There is a big difference between 2 planes, each with 13.5% of kills, and a single plane with 20+%.  In addition, both planes are barely breaking the 1.0 k/d ratio.  It looks to me that this tour has been a big furball tour, that's why those 2 planes have been heavily used.

Also, 10 fighters have k/d higher than the n1k ( 8 non-perks) and 13 higher than the spit9.

I think on the islands map we are going to see the f4u-1d, f6f5, and seafire come way up in the kills %, and the n1k will go way down.



------------------
bloom25
-MAW-
(Formerly of the)
THUNDERBIRDS

Offline AKDejaVu

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5049
      • http://www.dbstaines.com
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2001, 11:29:00 AM »
From the previous Lake map (Tour 14):
   

 

[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 06-02-2001).]

Offline Toad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18415
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2001, 05:24:00 PM »
Do I have this right?


F4U-1C

Tour 14 13.11 % of Fighter V Fighter Kills

Tour 16  5.63%

Difference: - 7.84% of kills in T16

Spit IX + N1K2

Tour 16 13.72% + 13.43% = 27.15%

Tour 14 10.48% + 10.26% = 20.74%

Difference:  + 6.41% of kills in T16

Almost uncanny, isn't it? The combined SpitIX and N1K2 kills have climbed very, very nearly as much as the F4U-1C kills have descended.

And beyond that, the Spit 9 and N1K2 individual fighter v fighter kill % for Tour 16 are both higher than the F4U-1C kill % was in Tour 14.

Interesting, eh?

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Offline GRUNHERZ

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13413
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2001, 06:39:00 PM »
Wow you guys play a game without bombers that have super guns? I honestly thing these fighter vs. fighter only stats are meaningless and misleading towards a planes real AH MA performance and abilities, that is unless you guys fly some super secret platinum plan AH that doesnt have bombers...  

SeaWulfe

  • Guest
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2001, 07:29:00 PM »
8 posts Grunherz.
-SW

Offline R4M

  • Parolee
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 662
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2001, 02:18:00 AM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Wow you guys play a game without bombers that have super guns? I honestly thing these fighter vs. fighter only stats are meaningless and misleading towards a planes real AH MA performance and abilities, that is unless you guys fly some super secret platinum plan AH that doesnt have bombers...    


Given the Chog numbers vs bombers in previous posts, I have to say that you hit it square on, Grunherz.

Total A2A stats is what more important than Fighter vs Fighter. Against buffs and fighters alike. To ignore the Buff stats is only a sorry excuse to make false points valid.

And, show me the total numbers, not just the FightervsFighter nor the A2A ones. The degree of use od the planes in AH is not the FightervsFighter list, but the TOTAL kill list. The Chog was overused. The spit and Nik are not. That is why one got perked and the other two, not.


[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 06-04-2001).]

Offline AKDejaVu

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5049
      • http://www.dbstaines.com
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2001, 07:43:00 AM »
LOL! you two are funny.

When it comes down to it, bombers deserve all the attacks they can get regardless.  But, in Tour 14 the F4u-1C scored 2581 kills against bombers.  In Tour 16, the Nik scored 2323 kills and the Spit IX 2094.  Oh yeah.. real big difference.

The truth is, whatever supports the anti chog whine for the week will be what is really important.  First, it starts with K/D being a big deal even though its not used that much.  Then it migrates to total kills being so rediculous even though its k/d is constantly dropping.  Then it migrates to "all I see are HO chogs" in the arena.

Now, "What about what they did to buffs? How can THAT be ignored!".  LOL!

Like you two were flying buffs.

LOL!!

Pathetic.. really it is.

Every advanced fighter was designed to go up against buffs.  Bigger guns were put in aircraft to shoot them down.  Faster climb rates were given to reach buffs sooner.  The whole concept of killing buffs is what took priority since they are what was destroying the cities.  Buffs always saw the best the country had to throw at them.

That is why the potential for destruction that each buff has in AH is pretty nuts on.  The motivation to kill them needs to be on par with WW2.  Its a pretty difficult concept for those that want to just furball... or are only concerned with FvF duels.

Of course, those are the people that will cry all day about turbo lazers getting 1.5k kills and how it has endless energy or how dweebs only HO in it.  I just had no idea you guys were talking about what it did against you when you were bombers.  I thought it had more to do with when you were in fighters.

At least one of us are remembering things wrong.  I tend to believe it may actually be two of us.

AKDejaVu

SeaWulfe

  • Guest
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2001, 07:49:00 AM »
10 posts RAM.
-SW

Offline LLv34_Snefens

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 728
      • Lentolaivue 34
Tour 16 Fighter Vs Fighter Stats
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »
DejaVu, along with these, have you thought about doing Fighter vs Fighter stats where kills of similar planes aren't counted (SpitIX vs SpitIX kills not included in the SpitIX stat etc.)

When "cannibal" kills are counted a plane's stats will inevitably approach a 1:1 K/D the more popular it is, since it will then more and more often encounter it's own kind.
Neglecting these will better show how it is doing against the rest of the planes.

Just an idea,

Snef
Snefens, Lentolaivue 34.
Location: Aarhus, Denmark

"Luck beats skill anytime"