Author Topic: American Military Prisoner Abuse is horrific... (Read 2121 times)

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2004, 01:38:22 PM »

Syria or Saudi Arabia should have been done after 9/11.

This link, between Sadaam and Al Qaeda, I'd like to see real evidence it existed. I believe even our own government admitted it was fabricated just after war began.
-SW

DiabloTX · « **Reply #31 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:04:01 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Cut and run?

OMG let's hope not!!

Good one G!

Bodhi · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:04:02 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Cut and run?

Now thats a plan...

Honestly though, you claim to have such a moral high ground yourself, what would you do right now, starting today to make things better over there...

hawker238 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:09:39 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
And if Kerry wins in Nov. what will you call it then?

The dealings of crooks of the previous administration.

Bodhi · « **Reply #34 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:12:14 PM »

So by your own admission, you have no idea... so, if you have no idea, why criticize others trying to do the right thing?

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:16:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
So by your own admission, you have no idea... so, if you have no idea, why criticize others trying to do the right thing?

Thank you for avoiding my question...

DiabloTX · « **Reply #36 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:17:19 PM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
The dealings of crooks of the previous administration.

You're confusing a (not gonna happen) Kerry win for Bush's win in '99.

Bodhi · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:24:20 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Because they're not doing what's right. They're doing what's wrong (prisoner abuse).

So now you are saying that the entire Coalition is doing wrong and abusing prisoners.... instead of the 20-30 that it actually was????

You are so reaching...

hawker238 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:27:26 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
If Bush wins after all this, I lose my final shred of faith in the American people.

There are good American people. They just go unrepresented.

Bodhi · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:09:55 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
*LOL!* Who's reaching? 20-30, yeah sure. People like you are despicable.

Show me a reputable link to more than 30 people that have been charged, and I will admit I am wrong. Sadly, you are just peeved because you can not find a way to put more blame on the US... and I'm the one who is despicable? lmao

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #40 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:27:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
Yeah remember our focus... seems tome that many people have forgotten this:

God Bless their souls ~~to the people who died in the WTC, and pentagon 9-11-01, your murder will not be forgotten.~~

~~You are messed up in the head. Using 9/11 in a debate of prisoner abuse? Do not use the deaths of those people to justify the deaths and torture of others.~~

Duedel · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:33:07 PM »

No Stabby, Eagler and Bodhi both use pathetic and totally pointless "arguments" to emphasize their inhuman points of view.

Rude · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:34:50 PM »

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The column refers to the British magazine "The Economist". You'll have to look for the articles yourself as they are not directly quoted.

You say that the Red Cross reported abuses as early as mid 2003. However, the story itself did not become "news" until CBS got a hold of some photos. This was AFTER the military had begun an investigation AND informed Congress. So, no, the Red Cross did not inform everyone, and is not responsible from breaking the news. Nor is Amnesty International. The "world" was not "informed" by the efforts of either.

The real problem with this entire situation is that attempts are being made to portray the actions of a few to be the policy of the administration and the norm for entire military, and neither is in fact true. The media would have everyone believe that the incidents at Abu Graib prove that the entire military, all the way up to Rumsfeld and possibly Bush, are stooping to the level of Stalin, Hitler, and Tojo, and their minions. That is not the case.

You're behaving far too reasonably...what are you doing here?

Rude · « **Reply #43 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:39:22 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Personally I think those justifying the mistreatment of prisoners are deplorable. Incidentally it is usually the same people justifying the war, and that are still in the mistaken belief that the war has anything to do with terrorism and 9/11.

While I have never excused our mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners, just what do you believe is the reason we went into Iraq...oil?

Rude · « **Reply #44 on:** May 28, 2004, 03:41:12 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
National interests (or perhaps the interests of a few of your nationals) ... as always.

I suppose we should have your best interest in mind?