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Offline Grimm

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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2004, 04:46:48 PM »
Furball,

I think you missed the point all together.   Energy fighting is NOT B&Z.    Many AH pilots dont seem to understand E-Fighting is something different.    

Everything you said is true,  but has nothing to do with E-fighting.

I think if you read his easay's you might learn something positive.

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2004, 04:53:47 PM »
Furballs learn something...

you gotta be jokin right....that boys brain cells live in another universe:rofl

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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2004, 05:58:08 PM »
sorry i should have took the time to read the link, based my response on a brief read of your quote, my bad :)

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2004, 07:18:50 PM »
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I learnt in turnfighters, thats a good start and since i learnt in turnfighters (i.e. the best way to learn ACM) - if i get caught low or outnumbered in a BnZ plane such as runstang, i am usually confident i can fight my way out.

There is much more skill involved, surviving and killing in a low-level turnfighter than being in the stratosphere in a runstang or run90.



Spot on Furball

everyone should learn TnB and ACM first  -  make the arena fights way more interesting

TnB is a better grounding for E-fighting than Bnz in many ways

Too many people get straight into a 190 or 51 and learn Bnzzzzzzzzz  only


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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2004, 09:21:13 PM »
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Any moron can BnZ in a runstang and get home.


Well if this is true, how do you explain all the people I see that are constantly trying to BnZ but always blow their E and die?

If the guy that gets home is a moron, what are the aforementioned guys?

Unfortunately (for them) lots of people assume E-management is  the sole or primary realm of the BnZ guy.  

I fly a 51 and get home sometimes, maybe I'm a moron too. :)
I prefer to keep my enemies quite close though, rather than extend and return in an endless cycle while accomplishing nothing.  I like to make the opponent(s) expend more energy than I until I can turn the tables on them.  Of course maybe this is a really bad idea... I mean if I'm one of the morons I doubt  I'd have ANY good ideas.
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2004, 11:26:41 PM »
Steve you suck!

Pea51. Pfft. What a crappy plane.:rolleyes:

Almost as crapy as the Pea38:eek:

What is all this stuff about turn fighting???? You can't turn fight a 51! Its imposible. Those flaps... Yeah those things there... They are meant to landing and take off only.

If you use them in a fight you will instantly be shot out of the sky. So please guys take my word for it. Dont use them either. And dont turn. Two things in a 51. No flap usage and no turnage. Two thins to remember please.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2004, 03:53:38 AM »
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I fly a 51 and get home sometimes, maybe I'm a moron too. :)

What do you mean "maybe"? :p

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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2004, 01:10:03 PM »
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Well if this is true, how do you explain all the people I see that are constantly trying to BnZ but always blow their E and die?


They are worse than morons.

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I fly a 51 and get home sometimes, maybe I'm a moron too. :)
I prefer to keep my enemies quite close though, rather than extend and return in an endless cycle while accomplishing nothing.  I like to make the opponent(s) expend more energy than I until I can turn the tables on them.  Of course maybe this is a really bad idea... I mean if I'm one of the morons I doubt  I'd have ANY good ideas.


you have mistaken my point : -

There are a lot of good people that use P51 in AH - i was not saying everyone that uses P-51 is a moron, just that its an easy plane to survive in and was using it as an example.
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2004, 02:31:21 PM »
Worse than morons.  Submorons?  Neomorons?  Ultramorons?
Hypermorons? Double Secret Probation Morons?
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2004, 04:21:11 PM »
MAWrons?
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2004, 07:40:35 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2004, 06:26:32 AM »
Question 1 (and very general).
How you see and use Energy Management ? [/B][/QUOTE]

There's a hole cockpit full of dials telling you how to see your Energy Management BUT who the hells looking at them when A) your trying to shoot down a foe or B) your trying not to be shot down.

As for "E" it's a kinda FEEL thing.  It comes to you after a while;) .  

I am more a TnB flyer but do do BnZ (no patience to do it all the time) but your question was about "E" so there are JUST 2 things that really blow your "E", irrespective of flying style.

A) Tight turns on your "X" axis
B) Climbing and loops on your "Y" axis.

Combining A with B = Flat on your ar$e for "E".  If you do A+B with foe's on your 6 the tower awaits your emediate arrival.  Now, if your on somones 6 and they start this capper Don't get drawn into it ( he say:rolleyes: ).  "Manage" the situation by anticipation trying to keep your "X" and "Y" axis as clean as possible.  If the foe starts split "S",s or loops you will SOON be presented with a GUN solution.  The very worst thing to come out of it if you miss is that you are still way faster than the foe.  You can extend or burn some of your "E" for the final gun solution.  It's your call :aok .