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B36 - P47 damage problem
« on: May 28, 2004, 04:44:25 PM »
Can anyone grab a jug online and check if they have this bug?

"as soon as hit in the engine, the plane catches fire, and blows up after a while".

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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2004, 04:59:50 PM »
You sure its not because of that "Uber Octaine" you use? ;)
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2004, 07:04:28 PM »
happened to me several times.
looks like main fuel hit, 3-4 second later plane goes boom. I remember this in the D25. don't remember if other cases were in other models.

feels a lot less durable than AHI.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2004, 07:16:18 PM »
Yeah, my D30s were catching on fire and exploding after a few hits.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2004, 10:18:54 PM »
There's something definately wrong with the p47 damage model in AH2.

I made a number of flights today using all models of the p47. Each time I received one ping to the engine, the oil and fuel would be damaged, then the plane would blow-up after only a few seconds.

I can understand to expect a few differences from AH and AH2, but this is something which needs to be looked into. The F6F, F4U and P47 all used the R2800 double wasp air cooled radial engine. This had 18 cylinders and there were reports citing how this same engine got men home after some of the cylinders had been shot off during an attack. This is major damage and shows how durable the engine is.

Hitech.......Please check the engine damage model!!

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2004, 06:42:27 AM »
I also posted on the P47 damage model.

I was on the direct 6 of a 110.  Just Jim was in the 110.

The 7mm mg on the 110 appeared to me to go through the R2800 radial, took out the Oil, and got the main fuel tank that sits behind the radial. I caught on fire and exploded seconds later.

I was told that it wasn't a direct 6 shot...from the side, or it went under the radial.  In any case the P47 front end is fragile as heck.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2004, 01:27:12 AM »
Simular incident, but I'm the afflicting side. As a P-47 ran past me, I fired a burst of single 20mm gun from the 109.

 I clearly saw the engine part was hit, and fumes and fuel started trailing the P-47, and also saw the fire. I am aware that sometimes, heavy hits to the fuel tanks cause fires on planes. This happened in AH1 too(except it usually seems to be associated with A6Ms..).

 Now, the P-47 pilot, maneuvered on without thinking of bailing. He said that the damage showed only fuel, and no other signs.

 It seems that there are several problems working at the same time here. #1 seems to be that pilots don't have enough feedback on whether their plane is buring or not - maybe some kind of sorting problem makes it very hard to see fires from the cockpit of the P-47?

 #2, seems to be that damages to the fuel tanks almost always results a fire in the P-47. If this is supposed to be feature, then clearly, other planes are not experiencing it.

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2004, 05:36:38 PM »
Are you guys seeing this in all P-47s or just the D-40?

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2004, 05:49:28 PM »
I only noticed it in the D40 from both flying it and fighting against it. out of 4  flights in a row same effect 1 or 2 pings/shots then 1 to 2 seconds later BOOM,  no fire notice able except on 1 flight, others fuel leak(showing), or fuel leak visible but not showing in CTRL D


will check  in patch41  soon as I load it, to see if it affects all versions.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2004, 06:34:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Pyro
Are you guys seeing this in all P-47s or just the D-40?


Pyro,
Me, DmdJW and MarkAT just flew numerous test flights with all models. They all seem to take 1 burst to damage main fuel, sometimes instant death rest of times a short flight to death afterwards never saw any fire.  Weird thing is you see both black and white smoke but only Main Fuel is showing in RED.  I asked DmdJW to shoot at wing , still same Main Fuel shows red.

Same results from different angles, HO, side shot, from the 6 spot.

DmdJW was in P51D firing at distance 600 to 800 back 1 burst each test ( 2 burst on 2 test)

We have film ( me and DmdJW ) if you need us to email it to you.

hope this helps
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2004, 06:39:10 PM »
I have been seeing it since beta 36. But I have only been flying D11 and D40. That accounts for how weak the D11 and D40 are over flack.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2004, 06:40:00 PM »
I have noticed this too, in all models, and worked with TC and DMDJw testing it. The 47 seems much too fragil at this point in time.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2004, 07:44:03 PM »
it happens in all models. fuel tank is hit easily (well, that a 370 gallons tank in there...) then EVERY SINGLE TIME it is hit, a few seconds later the planes goes boom. I counted 6 out of 6, but there were more before I started to count.

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2004, 08:32:26 PM »
D 40 here
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2004, 08:57:10 AM »
d-11 here, both receiving and giving side of the coin.