Author Topic: P38 Help (Read 902 times)

dedalos · « **Reply #15 on:** May 12, 2004, 10:56:28 AM »

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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
The P38 in the hands of a good stick is a dreadful thing to have to face.

I suppose that could be said for any plane.

The only advantage of fighting against a P38 is that it is a very large target.

Well, just for once, I would like to find a newbee in a 38 (just so I can empty all my amo into that thing ). WHy do I always engage the good ones? lol

Kweassa · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2004, 03:35:19 PM »

Because the P-38L for most noobs, is not a fighter, but a flying Katyusha rocket-pad. The moment you see them is usually the moment they are about to strike the ground and die.

The rest of the P-38Ls in the air, which actually stick around and fight, are almost usually the dedicated P-38 jocks.

SlapShot · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2004, 03:52:56 PM »

"Fly over him as if I was going to dive to see if he puls up. He does not so I pull up and go over the top (Now I have 7 or 8k on him) and dive straight down. He pulls straight up and I know the HO is comming so I breack left. Two dings and my tail is off. Look back he is d800. lol"

I don't believe that P-38 vs P-38 was the problem here. That scenario could be any plane.

I believe that the mistake you made was to pull off your initial attack. You had him low and slow and you had superior alt and speed.

On the inital dive, I would have pushed the attack and forced him to do something and gone for a nice deflection shot. If you missed the shot, he was forced to turn or go up with minimal speed/E which would have burned more speed/E.

Seeing that you were fast, after the miss, then zoom up, while watching how he egresses, and then push the attack again basically in the same manner.

His pull up, and shot to your tail would be something that I would write off to luck on his part and not get discouraged.

Keep pluggin at it ...

dedalos · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2004, 11:46:02 AM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
"Fly over him as if I was going to dive to see if he puls up. He does not so I pull up and go over the top (Now I have 7 or 8k on him) and dive straight down. He pulls straight up and I know the HO is comming so I breack left. Two dings and my tail is off. Look back he is d800. lol"

I don't believe that P-38 vs P-38 was the problem here. That scenario could be any plane.

I believe that the mistake you made was to pull off your initial attack. You had him low and slow and you had superior alt and speed.

On the inital dive, I would have pushed the attack and forced him to do something and gone for a nice deflection shot. If you missed the shot, he was forced to turn or go up with minimal speed/E which would have burned more speed/E.

Seeing that you were fast, after the miss, then zoom up, while watching how he egresses, and then push the attack again basically in the same manner.

His pull up, and shot to your tail would be something that I would write off to luck on his part and not get discouraged.

Keep pluggin at it ...

I was a lala not a 38. If I was in a 38 I would have been killed by the stuka, lol

SlapShot · « **Reply #19 on:** May 13, 2004, 12:30:33 PM »

"I was in a LA7 the other day ..." how did I miss that ...

Anyway, like I said .... "That scenario could be any plane. "

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #20 on:** May 13, 2004, 02:56:08 PM »

Dedalos, if you really want to learn the P-38, do a search of the AH message boards and look at the P-38 films I've posted. The only downside to the films is that you don't see the flaps move in the flap indicator but you'll be able to hear them and still get an idea when to use them.

Remember to be aggressive in the P-38 and nothing fights in the vertical like the twin engine beauty does. Once you get used to flying it, out turning Spits and N1K2s will become 2nd nature and soon when the enemy sees your P-38, they'll usually end up running. It's a curse we dedicated P-38 must endure but it is amusing seeing planes with the advantage run from a lone P-38

ack-ack

Morpheus · « **Reply #21 on:** May 13, 2004, 03:21:15 PM »

sounds to me like you should have sone a slow spiral slimb seeing as he was falling back. That would make the spit want to try and follow you around so to speak in your climb. This would pull his nose even further up and over and before long you are on top of him looking down at either his belly or his canopy and he's stalled out.

You can with full flaps and the right angle of attack, literally hoover above a con until he has stalled out or lost so much engery trying to climb to you that he has to lvl out. At that point when he lvls out is when you should drop right down release the flaps and have at him.

Morpheus · « **Reply #22 on:** May 13, 2004, 03:22:31 PM »

PS: AKAK one of these days we are going to have to wing up man

OIO · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2004, 09:00:07 PM »

the lesson is clear son: HO the spit.