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Offline qts

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« on: March 05, 2000, 06:46:00 AM »
Particularly the Spitfire XIV and the Mosquito fighter / fighter-bomber.

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2000, 07:16:00 AM »
... and the Mossie IV of course, the unarmed bomber version. The Typhoon is coming, the Lancaster is on the way I read, not bad.

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2000, 02:17:00 PM »
qts is right about the Spitfire XIV though, we need a late war fighter.  The Typhoon was a failed 1941 fighter, which still leaves us with the 1942 Spitfire IX.  The Lancaster is good though, its about time one of these online sims recognized the fact that there was an RAF Bomber Command.

If you need an example of why we need a late war Spitfire, read the "Your Favorite Airplane?" thread (  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002123.html  ) to get an idea of what people like.  The Spit is way down at the bottom of the list.  Why?  Because it is WAY outperformed by the '44 stuff the USAAF has (not to mention the N1K, upgraded Fw and 109)

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2000, 02:32:00 PM »
i disagree Karnak. the 14 climbs better than the 51. turns better than the 47. and is as fast as the 38. but then, this is all my experience from the WB version. as soon as the 51 in WB came out, i left my spit9 for the 14.

apples and oranges..eh...funny thing is, i can gain on the 51s in AH that i cood never gain on in WB with my 9...

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2000, 02:32:00 PM »
thats great having the spit XIV and all but whats the point of modelling all these different fighters that all have a weakness if the spit 14 modelled correctly has none?

you know all but the hardcore fans of their own aircraft would be in the spit 14 because nothing but a spit 14 could kill them. meanwhile there would be much nashing of teeth and wailing of the unterplane crowd.


how would this affect gameplay? not good for variety thats for sure.

and I hate spitfires, I hate fighting them and I hate flying them.  

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2000, 02:56:00 PM »
Well because of your post I did some reading on the Mosquito fighter/bomber.Up to now I thought it was used primarily for anti-shipping roles.I stand corrected.With the upcoming halftracks and tanks I think the Mosquito FB VI would be a great addition with it's 57mm cannon and 4000lb bombload.That cannon would make quick work of armored vehicles haha   I still don't care much for the molded plywood skin though but I reckon this would account for it's great speed.So take the good with the bad.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2000, 05:20:00 PM »
Mossie was an incredibly versatile (and succesful plane) by including it(with appropriate varients/load outs)HTC would kill a few birds with one stone (i.e. extra buff extra grounnd attack all in one)  

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2000, 05:27:00 PM »
 mossie would be a nice addition but xiv is just too deadly compared to any other plane in AH
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2000, 10:50:00 PM »
Citabria - There are a few planes that can run from the Spit XIV, so as long as we have those I don't see a problem with "Griffon Mania".

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2000, 11:02:00 PM »
Someday, I'm sure AH will have huge planeset that will rival the other online ACM sims.

Right now, I'd like to see a bit of work on the rest of the infrastructure. The old strat subject.

Ground vehicles, ground targets (bridges?), stuff that needs to be killed to help your side. Like halting the advance of AI ground forces or such. Give us a reason to fighter/bomb.

As for the present strat...you fly 1+ hours in a two-ship buff formation and IF both of you make it to target and IF both of you hit HQ, the dar goes down for a whopping 30 minutes. Probably less than half the time it took you to get there. Most likely you won't make it back, either.

The result is that this game is GOING UP. Even fighters are now climbing to 30K. There's no real reason to be down, is there?

The acks will shred you and there aren't any worthwhile jabo targets..in fact jabo's really can't affect strat much at all.

I'd like to see some work in these areas before we inflate the plane set.

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2000, 07:18:00 AM »
yes funked, but the p38 can not  
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2000, 09:23:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Toad:
Someday, I'm sure AH will have huge planeset that will rival the other online ACM sims.

Right now, I'd like to see a bit of work on the rest of the infrastructure. The old strat subject.


I concur Toadie. If you add later varients it will unbalance the arena even more requiring more plane development to offset the problem.

Would like to see more emphasis on strategy. More strat may even offset some of the "gang-banging."

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2000, 10:15:00 AM »
Yes, but they've ALREADY added later variants for the German, American and Japanese aircraft.  The Brits have 1942 tech.  If you guys had P-40s, P-39s, P-51As, early 109Gs and an A6M2 we wouldn't be asking for this and you guys would be complaining about YOUR aircraft selection.  Its about being competitive, and not hearing some 15 year old, never read a history book, punk telling you how British aircraft were awful because he's basing his knowlege on these sims.

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2000, 10:18:00 AM »
But British aircraft WERE awful...  looking.  

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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2000, 10:30:00 AM »
Karnak-

I know you can't be saying the Spitfire IX isn't competitive in this arena? Please, tell me what I'm missing, because to me the Spitfire is the fighter to beat.

By all means, call for the Spitfire XIV. I simply see no basis for using the "the Spit IX is uncompetitive" argument.