MS Flight Simulator

[Wolfala]

Here's a question for you guys. Is there ever going to be an occasion where this bloated byzantine piece of **** (the code that is) is going to be put out of its misery? I say this as each revision is a build upon the same code from BAO over 20 years ago and it runs worse each new version and new module.

Wolf

[Creamo]

Worked great for me. I want to buy some Flitsim stuff just becuase it runs so well on my limited harware.

But X-Plane looks way better, so who knows.

[B17Skull12]

xplane is teh gay!

[Halo]

I like MS Flight Sim 2004 a lot.  Didn't much care for previous versions.  The external views are the most fun pure flying in any sim I've seen.  (And I have X-Plane too, and like it okay.)

[Fishu]

FS is also fun in VATSIM multiplayer network... as a pilot and ATC

[Lizking]

Can you blow watermelon up?

[B17Skull12]

Originally posted by Fishu
FS is also fun in VATSIM multiplayer network... as a pilot and ATC

i used to do that.

thinking of going back over there when AH2 is released.

[Gixer]

I've never understood the interest in MS series of flight sims. Fly from point A to point B in a 747 and land. Where's the interest? I need stuff to blow up.

Always thought bus driving would be boring enough in real life let alone simulating it on the computer.



...-Gixer

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Gixer
I've never understood the interest in MS series of flight sims. Fly from point A to point B in a 747 and land. Where's the interest? I need stuff to blow up.

Always thought bus driving would be boring enough in real life let alone simulating it on the computer.

Well it isn't that simple, if you want to make it as realistic as possible.
It's actually something relaxing to do when doesn't care for shoot 'em ups.

It requires its own to create a flightplan, before you even get up in first place.
Then possible notes for the flight and depending on the panel, you have to set up certain things.
Properly coded FMC is always a fun toy to play with
In VATSIM it also gets interesting if theres lots of planes where youre flying at.
ATC goes nuts shouting out instructions to every one :>

...and that ATC part, now thats an another point of interest.
It isn't easy at all if theres many planes with you - it will make you sweat!


(Apologies for any heart seizures caused by my radar screen colour settings )

[Chairboy]

Fun things to do in X-Plane:

Land a 747 on an aircraft carrier

Get in an X-15, drop from a B-52 above Idaho and do a boost to 350,000 feet, re-enter over southern california and do energy management to land at Edwards Air Force base.

In an XB-70, blast across the Baltic at just under Mach 3 about 20 feet above the ocean, cross into the gulf of Finland and turn in towards Moscow, staying below radar...

Take an F-35 JSF, Marine version at LAX, and do vertical take off.  Hover on the thrust, then transition to forward flight, then transition back to hover over downtown LA and land on a helipad without falling off the building into traffic.

Take an Osprey from Santa Monica municipal to San Francisco, doing a low pass under the Golden Gate, maybe landing at Alcatraz why not.

I enjoy doing suborbital hops from LAX to Sea-Tac in the National Aerospace Plane that was cancelled during the 1980s, precision helicopter flying.

One very cool thing in X-Plane you can't do in MSFS is a full simulated Shuttle Re-entry from orbit, with real energy management consoles and apparently realistic handling.

[Halo]

One gripe I have with MS Flight Sim 2004 is how easy it is to stress business and commercial jets.  Can't do max throttle very long or aircraft is "overstressed."  

Are business and commercial jets really that fragile?   Seems like can do max throttle only for climb, and then have to throttle back to cruise.

[Halo]

Those are fun things in X-Plane, Chairboy.  Some spectacular flight effects, including northern lights at night.  

But I wish they'd tweak the ground handling characteristics.  I get a little embarrassed going off the runway, through the perimeter fence, up and down hill and dale and eventually getting airborne.  Those are some kinda tough planes.

[Sandman]

I haven't flown Aces High much in months. Flown much more MS Flight Sim. It's a different thing... as Fishu says. I like the navigation aspect. I don't use GPS.

[Halo]

I think being able to switch back and forth from internal to external views is vital for max enjoyment of any flight simulator.  

After all, computer simulations are wonders in themselves.  Because they can never replicate the entire live experience, they need other compensation for the most appeal and benefit.

Ironic that Aces High stopped external views on line while still allowing gameplay enhancements like Exorcist head, eagle-eye magnification, and all-country radio chat.  I'm all for these enhancements and want on-line external views restored too.

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by Halo
Those are fun things in X-Plane, Chairboy.  Some spectacular flight effects, including northern lights at night.  

But I wish they'd tweak the ground handling characteristics.  I get a little embarrassed going off the runway, through the perimeter fence, up and down hill and dale and eventually getting airborne.  Those are some kinda tough planes.

Ground handling has been completely revised in recent releases.  It's now a lot better, also models hydroplaning, skidding, blowing out tires, everything.  The developer did a small x-car sim (w/ anti-lock brakes, etc) to develop the physics, then applied it to X-plane.