Author Topic: so how are u guys doing on your homework? (Read 1167 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #30 on:** June 04, 2004, 03:50:34 PM »

Soooooo....

If 98% of "gun related saves" are due to brandishing or the simple knowledge that a gun is present, then....

I could save a bunch of money and invest in a cool looking toy gun, or lifelike BB gun and it'll work 98% of the time.. right?

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 04, 2004, 03:58:40 PM »

Speaking of dogs...I found an abandoned puppy in our neighborhood earlier this week. The cutest german shep/lab mix I've ever seen in a 1-month old mutt. She was stuck under my neighbor's SUV...her makeshift leash was stuck underneath the front tire.

Found her a GREAT home 2 days later.

It was my good deed for the year.

Dune · « **Reply #32 on:** June 04, 2004, 04:20:45 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Soooooo....

If 98% of "gun related saves" are due to brandishing or the simple knowledge that a gun is present, then....

I could save a bunch of money and invest in a cool looking toy gun, or lifelike BB gun and it'll work 98% of the time.. right?

98% of the time.

Bodhi · « **Reply #33 on:** June 04, 2004, 06:16:22 PM »

Laz, buy me a copy and I'll read it.

SLO · « **Reply #34 on:** June 04, 2004, 06:33:32 PM »

look this is 2004....do you really need a gun today to survive.

maybe in the 1800's you did need a gun to protect yourselves and your Family....since in those days you really did need 1....but not today bud

Otto · « **Reply #35 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:17:17 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO
look this is 2004....do you really need a gun today to survive.

I'm conforted to know that in 2004 no one is ever going to try and do me harm. And, if they do, I'll just call the Police....

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #36 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:56:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Otto
I'm conforted to know that in 2004 no one is ever going to try and do me harm. And, if they do, I'll just call the Police....

As my father used ta say "If the police cannot protect the people then people must protect themselves"
Just in my own observations its painfully obvious the police are pretty enept at protecting the people untill after the fact.
Thats not ment as a a slight on Cops because they can only do what they can as best they can..
But it s a realistic view on it.

Plus I wana know if they take away all the guns who is gonna protect me from the government.

Although I suppose that with a trip or two to a hardware store combined with mixing the proper proportions a few houshold ingrediants I could make something that although crude would be more then capable of blowing a sizable hole through anyone with the strike of a match.
Seems kinda time consuming though.

lazs2 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 05, 2004, 08:59:17 AM »

"Soooooo....

If 98% of "gun related saves" are due to brandishing or the simple knowledge that a gun is present, then....

I could save a bunch of money and invest in a cool looking toy gun, or lifelike BB gun and it'll work 98% of the time.. right?

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Midnight Tahgut "

You are correct... I would say that less than 1 in 100 people would not back down from a gun pointed at them real or not. Of course... in most states the penalties for brandishing a toy gun are the same or worse than a real one and it is just as inconvienient and you can't get a permit to carry a toy gun and if you run into a bad guy with a gun (the 1 in 100)and and and..

but if you do... you should probly saw off the flouresent orange tip all toy guns are required by law to have. That would make you an even worse criminal tho of course..

bohdi.. if you believe that we need more restrictive gun laws and are unable or even unwilling to go to the library to check out "the bias against guns" and you are willing to read it and report on it... Email me and I will buy you a copy Put something in the subject line so I don't think it is spam.

lazs

strk · « **Reply #38 on:** June 05, 2004, 09:11:21 AM »

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MT.. weren't yu one of the ones who was gonna read the book?

I will make a deal... I will read any author who holds one of you guys whacko liberal views (unless I have allready read it) on any subject you choose no matter how tinfoil hatted I think it is..

lazs

even "Living History" by Hillary?

lazs2 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 05, 2004, 09:17:45 AM »

strk... if that is the one he wants me to read and comment on and the one that he believes supports his views best.

I listen to a little grass valley ultra left wing radio show all the time... It is a hoot.. all these post menopausal hippie chicks and pale men espousing the most bizzare "facts" about government and the environment and social systems (sorta like your stuff) and wondering why no on takes them seriously... it is great fun to listen to their desperation and watch them tell bigger and bigger whoppers in order to get a reaction.

lazs

strk · « **Reply #40 on:** June 05, 2004, 09:37:44 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
strk... if that is the one he wants me to read and comment on and the one that he believes supports his views best.

I listen to a little grass valley ultra left wing radio show all the time... It is a hoot.. all these post menopausal hippie chicks and pale men espousing the most bizzare "facts" about government and the environment and social systems (sorta like your stuff) and wondering why no on takes them seriously... it is great fun to listen to their desperation and watch them tell bigger and bigger whoppers in order to get a reaction.

lazs

you can stream air america too - check out randi rhoades show at 3pm weekdays

lazs2 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 06, 2004, 09:32:05 AM »

randi rhodes? A now defunct (dont they all end up being) leftie station used to have a shrill lady called dusty rhodes.

Will try to find air America... sounds like a real hoot... a frisco styled tinfoil hat site for sure.

lazs

ravells · « **Reply #42 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:27:26 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
rav.. no problem. While we don't agree a lot of the time I do believe that you give most peoples arguements a fair reading. There are several on this board that I wouldn't make the offer to but most of the brighter (and usually older) semi-liberals on this board have some decent thought processes going on.

Either way... I would like your opinion.

lazs

OK, thanks Lasz. Send me the book. I'll read it. give me your email address and I'll send you my postal address. Or if you prefer, send me an email on ravells@hotmail.com.

Of all the posters on these boards you have done more to change my mind about any issue.

Ravs

Hooligan · « **Reply #43 on:** June 06, 2004, 07:47:42 PM »

Lazs:

If you're going to buy ravs a book. Log on to the UK Amazon site and buy it there and ship it directly to him. You will save a lot on shipping.

Hooligan

beet1e · « **Reply #44 on:** June 07, 2004, 02:47:50 AM »

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right to carry states have 70% less multiple victim public shootings for instance.

I think we need to take a closer look at cause and effect. You have mentioned in the past that Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws out of the 50 states. I think you would be pretty quick to cite this as the reason for the relatively low rate of crime.

But this would be to overlook other very significant factors. No-one would dispute the fact that a majority of crime occurs in areas of high population density. The big cities.

Vermont doesn't have any areas of high population density. It's about 9,000 square miles and has about 65 people per square mile. Even Burlington, Vermont's largest city, has a population of only about 40,000.

To single out the presence or absence of guns or gun laws in an attempt to draw a comparison between different crime rates ignores the wider issue of demographics.