La7 as a Perk Plane

[SpitLead]

I've been away from AH for a few years so this subject has probably been covered ad nauseum but I'm going to throw it up again.  Looking at the performance data provided by AH for several of the current perk planes, namely the F4U-4 and the Spit 14, it seems to me the La7 should be a perk plane.  The top speed at sea level of the La7 is as FAST as the F4U-4 AND it has better climb rate at sea level with WEP.  It also turns better at low speed.  Versus the Spit 14, the La7 blows away the top speed by nearly 15-20 MPH but the Spit does have a better climb rate by about 500 fpm.  So where is the advantage??  Why blow 40-60 perk points on either of these airplanes when the La7 is as good as if not better performer in the MA where most of the action takes place below 5000 ft?  Someone please help me figure this one out.  Given the number of La7's in the MA I would think AH should consider perking this airplane like they did with the F4U-C.  Is there something to these planes I'm missing here?  Thanks for your intelligent replies in advance...

Spitlead

[GODO]

Problem with La7 or any other plane is overusage. IMO, that should be the mandatory factor to perk anything.

[Blooz]

Each nationality in Aces High has a top end aircraft that isn't perked. Russia has La7, Briton Spit9, Italy C205, German 109G10 and the United States P51.

Each of these planes are roughly equal and they are the "late war power planes". I think its just to make things even between all the represented countries (think of it mainly for the Combat Theatre scenarios and Special Events)

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Blooz
Each nationality in Aces High has a top end aircraft that isn't perked. Russia has La7, Briton Spit9, Italy C205, German 109G10 and the United States P51.

[straffo]

Sure Karnak  that was funny

[Replicant]

Originally posted by Blooz
Each nationality in Aces High has a top end aircraft that isn't perked. Russia has La7, Briton Spit9, Italy C205, German 109G10 and the United States P51.

Each of these planes are roughly equal and they are the "late war power planes". I think its just to make things even between all the represented countries (think of it mainly for the Combat Theatre scenarios and Special Events)

Yeah, had to laugh at the Spit9 too Karnak!  Detuned early 1942 Spit....

Blooz, thought the Spit14 supposed to be the equivalent to the P51D and 190D9?

[Kweassa]

The logic of the NPA suggests that the La-7 should be perked at 3~5 points.

 The arena should be shifted into an environment resembling late 1943.

 The changes in fuel burn rate in AH2 has rendered the La-7 pretty much unpopular as it has a very limited range.

 However, it is proven that when the La-7 became a rare plane, there was practically no stopping 190Ds and Bf109G-10s, P-51Ds.

 The over abundance of these planes in the Beta arena was actually a very intersting thing to watch and analyze - as the LW planes seem to have been chosen as a worthy substitue to the La-7 in the fact that they are both very fast, and has longer range than the La-7, with the ability to carry DTs.

 Thus, the whole section of these "late war" planes, should be perked.

[Tilt]

"However, it is proven that when the La-7 became a rare plane, there was practically no stopping 190Ds and Bf109G-10s, P-51Ds."


Yup enter the "Runstang"

It was more popular than the La7 in AH1 and that is set to grow even more in AH2 once folk see a slightly better FM under combat trim and a fuel endurance (under FBM 2) to enable many multiple hit and spray and run and climb attacks.

[Batz]

the la7 has 21 min of fuel at mil in AH2. It doesnt need to be perked. The p51d should be perked. Its used far more then any other plane in the main. With th high fuel mod its numbers will climb.

I dunno how the hell anyone can the spit 9 or even the niki should be perked. Both of those planes are so slow  the only way they can get to you is if you let them.

The la7 the spoit 9 and niki are the fun planes to fight. The p51s and p238s and p47s are the worst.

We need more fun and less run.....

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Karnak

ROFL @ karnak

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Kweassa

 However, it is proven that when the La-7 became a rare plane, there was practically no stopping 190Ds and Bf109G-10s, P-51Ds.

A well flown (ok, masterfully flown) P47D-11 or F4U-1 can handle any of the aforementioned rides.

The issue here is that too many people suck up to the fastest, shiniest late war bird they can get, and w/o really learning how to fly.

I'm an average pilot, at best, but I've had my share of kills in my mid-war rides against late war rides that people havent learned to fly. IMO, and in my experience, I've had far tougher fights against that lone wolf in his P47 or FM2 than the late wars....maybe I've been unlucy enough to run into a monster at 25k

[Pongo]

Yup the La7 should get its drop tanks.

[Blooz]

Perk status isn't just about performance. It's also about historical availability.

In the case of the Spit14 only some 900 were built as opposed to the 11,000 or so Spit5 and 9's that were built.

[Replicant]

Originally posted by Blooz
Perk status isn't just about performance. It's also about historical availability.

In the case of the Spit14 only some 900 were built as opposed to the 11,000 or so Spit5 and 9's that were built.

Numbers isn't necessary an excuse to perk a plane:

N1K2 - 416 made
La5 - 1,500 made
P40B - 241 made
Bf110C4 - 1,000 made
Fw190A5 - 723 made
Fw190D9 - 700 made

So, the Spit14 is supposed to be equivalent to the P51D and the 190D9... and there were less D9s made than the Spit14, so ???

[jetb123]

I agree Spitlead i am sick of me being 15k then a 10k la7 climbs to me out. I say perk it or lower the performence power.