Author Topic: Stupid Mountain Climbers (Read 584 times)

Sixpence · « **on:** June 03, 2004, 10:26:37 PM »

They should make them pay every cent it costs to rescue their stupid Azzes. Can't believe we send people to risk their lives saving some dumbarse who decides to climb up 11k for no reason other than to be stupid.

Horn · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2004, 10:51:18 PM »

Yeah we had a kid die up here last weekend. Went for a hike in lite jacket above treeline and was subjected to a fast moving arctic-like cold front and didn't make it through the night. Sad, especially since the weather guessers had been predicting the front for a week.

Some folks just find it unbelievable and outside their experience that the weather can change so fast.

h

Ripsnort · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2004, 11:20:01 PM »

One Auburn Fighter fighter, climbing hobbist..(His wife and 2 kids live 6 miles from us) dies on Mt. Rainier today. My wife had the displeasure of working the ER when they brought them into Harbor view today.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040604/ap_on_re_us/rainier_rescue_4

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2004, 01:08:38 AM »

Whats just as stupid is these utter idiots who insist on building their houses along the Missisipi River (or any other river for that matter)then get upset when they get flooded out which seems to happen damn near every other year.

LWACE · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2004, 01:40:01 AM »

lol wow, climbing isnt stupid at all, its something you do (well if you have common smarts) knowing is very dangerous, and a potential life ender. Its very exciting so many things change so fast up there.

And the rescure people are getting paid to go up there that is their job, its what they want to do to help people and thank god for them as they save many lives every year.

Sometimes you just have bad luck, sometimes its inexpierenced climbers thinkin they know it all and are invincible.

I climb alot during the summer and take precautions to hopfully ensure stuff like this doesnt happen, sometimes theres just nothin you can do.

But saying climbing is stupid etc, is like saying playing FootBall is stupid because you can get hurt doing it. Accidents happen.

Anyways as a last note, if your wondering why anyone in the world would climb a mountain. Personally for me, its the excitment, knowing im doing something that is potentially dangerous, adrenaline you might say, its knowing i workd and climbed that whole long way to get to the very top, up there youll see some of the most beautiful views youve ever seen(glacier lakes etc), gives you a real good feeling inside, and well its exercise, takes your mind off things, its just fun!

May the unfourtunate climber R.I.P and the family get through these rough times.

ET · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2004, 05:20:24 AM »

My son and daughter and their spouses are high toppers and have climbed to the highest point in roughly 45 states.

On the hard ones out west they have hired experienced guides and attended classes to insure they make the climb as safely as they can.

They have seen the beauty of 90% of the U.S. met it's citizens and have enjoyed the sight seeing along the way.

Boroda · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:42:13 AM »

Alpinism is a great sport. And in fact - amateur alpinism isn't more dangerous then crossing a street in a big city. With some training and common sence it's pretty safe.

In Soviet times the group that was lost, or had an accident, had to pay 600 rubles per hour of helicopter flight if nessesary. Average salary in USSR was around 200 rubles that time.

I had one of my former group leaders disqualified for a year because he didn't send a telegram to a control-and-rescue service from a village his group passed on their route. They were there on Sunday, the post office and telegraph was closed, so he just gave a first local guy he saw a 3-ruble bill and a sheet of paper with a text and adress. I think the guy was happy to drink to the health of hikers from Moscow

Yeager · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:10:11 AM »

Agreed with 6pants. People should be required to have rescue insurance or be liable for any debt/loss of life that results from their adveture.

gofaster · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:15:38 AM »

Next we'll have folks on this board telling us how stupid surfers are because lifeguards have to drag them in when they get attacked by sharks or get bounced off the bottom of the ocean.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:17:35 AM »

wait till the democrats decide it isn't good for you...

It should be banned... I mean... "if it will save just one life...."

lazs

Sixpence · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:02:36 AM »

You wanna do it fine, but hire your own rescue crew, why should tax dollars and resources be used to to rescue people who decide to play chicken with nature? To quote lazs, "why should I be extorted?"

Oh yeah, compare it other sports, like dodging sharks in a shark tank. Or living with bears.

lazs2 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:07:48 AM »

believe me.. I have no problem with not sending rescuers or charging for rescue from say.... insurance...

What I have a problem with is outlawing risky behavior. That is the democrat way... "it is for your own good". mentality.

I bet people would volunteer to rescue. climbers could be required to have insurance if they wished to be rescued.

I have tripple A for if I blow up a hot rod on your roads for example.

lazs

Shuckins · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:18:03 AM »

You have the right to climb if you want to do so. But if you are injured or stranded on a rugged mountainside then some other mother's child must risk life and limb trying to rescue you. I don't care if it IS their job, no one should have to place their own life in danger to rescue thrill seekers.

Having to pay part of the costs of rescue might curb some of the riskier behavior that some engage in.

Boroda · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:35:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Agreed with 6pants. People should be required to have rescue insurance or be liable for any debt/loss of life that results from their adveture.

Next time they'll fine me for not buying insurance if I want to go to the forest 50km from Moscow to pick mushrooms. That's the way it will be here in Russia in 2008.

Bodhi · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:35:24 AM »

Most places are starting to charge fees for rescues. I climbed Pike's Peak yesterday (14110 feet) and when we got to the top it was about 20. When he left, the wind was humping and I say the wind chill was well below freezing. But, no one was cold, because we had the proper gear... except the stupid tourists in shorts freezing after driving to the top on the backside road. Anyways, I have no problem paying for a rescue that my stupidity causes, but I to say I do not have the right to climb is soooo democratic its disgusting... I will climb, be prepared, and have a good time. You start telling me I can't, be prepared for the resulting revolution you liberal bastages.