Author Topic: Who we gonna lose to AH2? (Read 4257 times)

Jackal1 · « **on:** June 04, 2004, 01:05:08 AM »

According to Pyro`s announcement next week will be curtains for AH1 and AH2 will be released.
Who is not going to make the transition to AH2?

Gixer · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2004, 01:16:53 AM »

I'll make the tranistion but unless there are more improvements on the way (especially in regards to the graphics) I'll be looking else where.

Frankly I don't think AH2 is a significant step forward at all. It's not a step back as some have pointed out. But it's hardly the leap forward I was expecting. After what, almost 2 years of development? Cripes we still have pixel dust for explosions. :-(

~~...-Gixer~~

XtrmeJ · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2004, 01:18:00 AM »

jetb123 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2004, 01:47:31 AM »

ME for a week heheh i will be there see you guys there

beet1e · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:00:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Frankly I don't think AH2 is a significant step forward at all. It's not a step back as some have pointed out. But it's hardly the leap forward I was expecting. After what, almost 2 years of development? Cripes we still have pixel dust for explosions.

I'm inclined to agree. I really wanted to see TOD. Originally, TOD was going to be included in the current AH1 game version. In December 2002 I learned that this was not going to happen. I told my CO I was thinking of cancelling my account because of that. But I hung on...

...but then we heard that not even AH2 was going to include TOD, and there would be two different games - Classic and TOD, but that TOD would be a long way behind. Based on the hype for AH2 and its eventual delivery date, one can only surmise that TOD won't arrive until 2006/2007 or maybe later.

AH2 Classic - new graphics, new flight model, but the gameplay looks set to be the same old, same old. Seems like I am one of the only people not to be surprised by that.

mars01 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:19:26 AM »

Man o Man o meter - Beetle are you stuck on whine or something

It has been stated by HTC that this is the beginning - the rewrite of the graphics engine was done so they can accommodate more changes down the road. If you think the current graphics of AHII are it and HTC are done well you'll be wrong.

So Beet tell me how do you build a game on a non existent graphics engine. Your putting the cart before the horse and even worse your crying about it.

So you have to wait a little longer for TOD - stop crying, stop bashing the hard work HTC has put in to get this far and get on board. The new flight model alone is worth it.

The more you nay sayers fly it the more you will get it. The changes are at first subtle, but once you fly it a bit you notice they are big. I hate going back to AHI after leaving AHII now. Also the new skins kick prettythang, the trees are awesome, the land GV battles are a lot better with the ground detail the way it is, the sky could be a lot better, but all in all they are going in the right direction.

I'm not saying the game play is great or even close to great, but that has more to do with the community than the game itself.

Unfortunately there are more timid run rather than fight, stay high on a perch types than there are blood thirsty roll the dice and fight types. As long as people can win or lose this will always be the case, so you either have to minimize the impact or give it up.

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Originally, TOD was going to be included in the current AH1 game version. In December 2002 I learned that this was not going to happen. I told my CO I was thinking of cancelling my account because of that. But I hung on...

Thank Goodness

SirLoin · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:31:43 AM »

Im in..I'm more interested in the TOD aspect of AH2 than anything else.

sling322 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:36:55 AM »

Give it up Mars....there are some folks who would ***** no matter what. You could walk up and hand them $1000 and they would wonder why it wasnt $10,000. If you enjoy the game, fine....at least you understand that it is an ever-changing game and the new engine is only going to allow them to make it better every release from this point. Its not worth wasting breath...or in this case your fingers on the folks that will never be pleased no matter what direction HTC goes in.

beet1e · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:43:30 AM »

Not whining about the game, which is brilliant - I have said so in the past. But the gameplay sucks. OK, we as customers decide that, and in a no-holds-barred environment, we're going to get the crap we have now no matter how good the graphics engine is. I can't see why TOD needs a new graphics engine to be deployed. As far as I can tell, TOD is to be a mission theatre, with those missions being decided by an intelligent host. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that has got bugger all to do with graphics.

jay1988 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:01:17 AM »

You are going to lose me until i can save $650 dollars for a new computer:(

lazs2 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:09:48 AM »

beetle... you are not the only one to not be surprised by that....How could the gameplay be different?

You are the one who said the gameplay would be different with the new gunnery and FM..

I knew the gameplay would be the same when it was RELEASED to the unwashed masses but...

What surprised most of us was that BETA gameplay is the way it is... people usually have fun in a beta.

lazs

mars01 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:11:41 AM »

True sling, lazs lol.

Beet, They had to upgrade the graphics and anything that makes the flight model more realistic is worth while.

Knowing that they had to upgrade the Graphics engine, AHI is already dead and out of date, why would they build TOD on AHI and then throw it out when they finished the new engine. Makes no sense.

Mister Fork · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:22:16 AM »

Is this post a toll for those to vent with 4 year old machines?

I know it's hard financially to keep a new computer in the house, but seriously, AHII runs just fine on a GF3 Pentium III machine - that's a two year old setup.

I think AHI has allowed some of us to neglect keeping our workstations up to date because the product will run on old computers.

Heck, AHII runs faster on my new machine than AHI does.

IronDog · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:31:46 AM »

I've been enjoying AH2 for a few weeks now,despite the things I don't care for,graphics,freezes,,etc.I find the new FM,black outs,gunnery,challenging.Graphics probs,studders,gave me reason to get better vid card,although the old Ti 4200 was doing reasonably well.That being said,I'm no business type person,but I can see a problem when the switchover comes.I believe many that can't afford to upgrade,or for other reasons don't wish to fly AH2,will simply quit.There goes your customer base.Lack of customers will cause price increase,more people quit.If I was doing this move,I would surely keep AH1 going,as it could salvage a lot of accounts.AH2 just hasn't got enough to offer,and the possible side effects caused by a mandatory move,would make me shudder if I was running AH.My 2 cents worth.
IronDog

68DevilM · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:46:44 AM »

im gonna give it a try for about a week before i make this decision.

ive been messing around with ah2 a bit here and there, but so far ive been a little bit uncomfortable with some of the changes.

ie. where the hell is the vh? or why is that sun so fricken bright!
but im gonna give it another chance nevt week before i decide.

as for ah1 im gonna save it on disk just incase i dont like ah2 so i can mabey network one day with other gamers and still play, hey at least there wont be a mass hoard anymore!;)