Author Topic: Military Personell (Esp. Army) (Read 556 times)

Hawklore · « **on:** June 04, 2004, 02:54:01 AM »

I was wondering how long is it when your AWAL (or however you spell it) are you considerd a disertor (however you spell that too).

Also, what is the maximum age the Army, or military, will take you in?

Also, if you go AWAL for so many years, and nothings been done, and you decide to go back, whats the punishment and payment issues?

Thanks,
Hawklore

I'm a tard!

Rolex · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2004, 03:31:58 AM »

AWOL = Absent WithOut Leave.

After 30 days AWOL, the military can declare you a deserter.

I know the maximum age used to be 38, but that probably has changed since I got out 30 years ago. Sheesh

It's been over 30 years? I never thought I'd live this long...

Everything always depends on individual circumstances, but an 'average' deserter will have to spend a few years in military prison, forfeit their pay, then receive a dishonorable discharge.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:21:44 AM »

we had a guy go awol for exactly 29 days 3 times he was finally put in a nice bright orange jumpsuit.

I just read an article about a guy that deserted from the Air Force 20+ years ago. He now has a wife and 2 kids and was self employed......somehow they found him arested him and made him be an active duty E2 for 3 months before discharge.

101ABN · « **Reply #3 on:** June 04, 2004, 11:58:21 AM »

also, when you go awol that is considered "lost time" and all lost time must be made up. so when they catch you, you have to serve the lost time.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2004, 12:29:32 PM »

It varies from command to command, and it also depends alot on the conditions you went AWOL under. I worked in a military prison for 2 years, so I've seen quite a few cases. In some instances, like trainees walking away from Basic, they serve 30 days in jail, then go back to be administratively separated from the Army. In other cases it's more severe, for instance; an active duty E-5 whose unit was about to deploy to Iraq went AWOL. He received an 18 month sentence due to the circumstances.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2004, 12:39:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Raubvogel
In some instances, like trainees walking away from Basic, they serve 30 days in jail, then go back to be administratively separated from the Army.

Had more than a few do this in Quantico, but to the best of my knowledge, they just let them go - didnt even bother trying to get them back.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #6 on:** June 04, 2004, 12:41:19 PM »

They don't really make much of an effort to get them back, but all it takes is for that person to get pulled over for a traffic ticket, or use their SSN with the gov't somewhere for them to get caught. The unit will never see them back, they go straight to a "Personnel Control Facility", then to the prison.

101ABN · « **Reply #7 on:** June 04, 2004, 03:25:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Raubvogel
They don't really make much of an effort to get them back, but all it takes is for that person to get pulled over for a traffic ticket, or use their SSN with the gov't somewhere for them to get caught. The unit will never see them back, they go straight to a "Personnel Control Facility", then to the prison.

when a basic trainee goes over the wall, attempts are made to get them....but if they cant find them the army doesnt consider the soldier a loss. now for active duty (those that have completed IET & AIT), there is an aprehension section with the CID. their whole and sole job is to track down the wall jumpers. you are also correct, after 90 days the CID section sends out the soldiers information to the local authorities. after 180 days the names and information is sent to the FBI for processing into the national fugitive database... just experienced the situation... soldiers (female) boyfriend (another soldier) jumped the wall back in Feb.. got nabbed !!

strk · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:45:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Had more than a few do this in Quantico, but to the best of my knowledge, they just let them go - didnt even bother trying to get them back.

Ive lived near Quantico all my life.

Id be suprised to learn that anyone walked away from the training programs there, especially OCS. There is no basic training at Quantico, where I would expect people to try to walk away.

I have heard of recruits drowning while trying to get off of Paris Island though.

Arlo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:47:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
we had a guy go awol for exactly 29 days 3 times he was finally put in a nice bright orange jumpsuit.

I just read an article about a guy that deserted from the Air Force 20+ years ago. He now has a wife and 2 kids and was self employed......somehow they found him arested him and made him be an active duty E2 for 3 months before discharge.

Listen .... I'm sick and tired of you Bush bashers ....

strk · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:09:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
Listen .... I'm sick and tired of you Bush bashers ....

hehe

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:58:10 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
Ive lived near Quantico all my life.

Id be suprised to learn that anyone walked away from the training programs there, especially OCS. There is no basic training at Quantico, where I would expect people to try to walk away.

I have heard of recruits drowning while trying to get off of Paris Island though.

Beautiful area isnt it?

Must have been alot of ****birds in my class. We had 6 disappear from my platoon between nightfall and sunrise in the first 2 weeks. OCS is essentially "basic" for officers - not much different than PI or SDRD except we dont really get into weaponry until TBS so Id imagine the mindset of "WTF did I get myself into" would be just as common.

Of course we were all warned, but that didnt stop those kids from freaking out.

Monk · « **Reply #12 on:** June 05, 2004, 02:38:40 AM »

Saur, when were at Qauntico? Early- mid 80's for me. Tis a beautiful place, yes sir.

Nilsen · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:01:48 AM »

I thought you voulenteered for the armed forces. Nobody (except in wartime) force folks to join, so why would they leave? And when they do decide to "leave", why bother getting them back? They are not motivated enough to be there so they would proly just be a danger to themselves and others.

strk · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2004, 06:29:52 AM »

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Beautiful area isnt it?

Must have been alot of ****birds in my class. We had 6 disappear from my platoon between nightfall and sunrise in the first 2 weeks. OCS is essentially "basic" for officers - not much different than PI or SDRD except we dont really get into weaponry until TBS so Id imagine the mindset of "WTF did I get myself into" would be just as common.

Of course we were all warned, but that didnt stop those kids from freaking out.

yes it is beautiful but the humidity can get really bad.

I'd expect that attitude in boot camp, but not so much in OCS.