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Offline SFRT - Frenchy

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« on: June 06, 2004, 01:13:38 PM »
Duxford huri landing gear lock failure

Colapsing landing gear is the new fashion this season.

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2004, 01:19:03 PM »
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Duxford huri landing gear lock failure

Colapsing landing gear is the new fashion this season.



I am sure that if you were the pile-it, these things would never happen... so you gonna blame BoB flight for having shoddy maintenance and crappy volunteers too?

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2004, 01:31:33 PM »
no I think he's saying there is a trend this year of precious WWII warbirds goin down.

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2004, 01:37:49 PM »
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no I think he's saying there is a trend this year of precious WWII warbirds goin down.


Read his posts under the "P-51C crashes" thread, then you will see where I am coming from.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2004, 01:44:58 PM »
It's just normal for little flight time those machines do. All I see is that those rare planes get damaged or destroyed due to mechanical or system failures, not pilot error. Moreover, it's not a rare occurence. So .. as the uninformed dummy that I am, I think that the guys responsible for the maintenance must not be doing everything right.

You are one of those guys, and you got offended because you never overlook anything. It's about the same for me to read this constant BBS France bashing and being French. It's the life in the O'club.:)
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2004, 01:49:03 PM »
Blame it on the 109 that tried to vulch him.





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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2004, 01:55:45 PM »
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So .. as the uninformed dummy that I am, I think that the guys responsible for the maintenance must not be doing everything right.


Or, quite possibly, the aircraft could have crabbed too much on landing, or hit hard enough to have side loaded the down locks enough to cause failure.  It was a fairly common occurence when there were lots of them flying.  


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You are one of those guys, and you got offended because you never overlook anything. It's about the same for me to read this constant BBS France bashing and being French. It's the life in the O'club.:)


I do get offended when you claim a blanket statement as you did about the CAF, (I am not a member, but I do ALOT with them).  As for me never overlooking anything, thats a luxury I do not have, because if I do overlook something, someone more than likely will die.  THats why my shop, and my guys institute triple and quadruple checks on EVERYTHING we do.  It's expensive, but 12 years and no incidents speaks for itself.  Ever wonder why mechanics are so cranky about how pilots do maintenance write ups?  As a pilot and mechanic, I understand the need for TOTAL knowledge of the problem, not just an assumption that the mechanic will find it...  

Ohh, and for your record, I do not hate France, nor do I bash France.  I will own a home someday in the south of France near Ex someday in the future, as I think it is truly beautiful, and I love the people there.  That said. I think Chirac's leadership is not to my liking, but guess what, I am not French, so I do not have a right to change that leadership.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2004, 02:10:25 PM »
There's a lot of 60 year old parts on 60 year old warbirds.

When you get to be 60, some of your parts will fail too, no matter how well you inspect and maintain them.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2004, 02:14:38 PM »
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There's a lot of 60 year old parts on 60 year old warbirds.

When you get to be 60, some of your parts will fail too, no matter how well you inspect and maintain them.


Hey Im only 42 and already my landing gear (knees in particular) aint what they used ta be
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2004, 02:18:16 PM »
Well, according to Frenchy, it must be your volunteer mechanic's fault I guess.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2004, 04:18:40 PM »
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Read his posts under the "P-51C crashes" thread, then you will see where I am coming from.


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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2004, 04:44:21 PM »
Nah, just an appropriate comment to someone that is/was speaking about something he didn't really know anything about.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2004, 04:52:22 PM »
Perhaps, I just ended the lecture of the other thread (the 51 one).

I can't say I agree with Frenchy nor I disagree.

Concerning my little experience in restauring planes  I know that you can do wrong even trying to to your best with all your heart.

We had unfortunatly the experience 2 year ago sadly it costed 2 lifes :(