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« on: June 07, 2004, 10:03:53 AM »
U.S. to Cut a Third of Troops in S. Korea by 2005

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SEOUL, South Korea  — The United States wants to withdraw a third of its 37,000 troops from South Korea by the end of next year, U.S. and South Korean officials said Monday as the two countries discussed plans for repositioning soldiers along the Cold War's last frontier.




THAT'S what I'm talking about!

Germany after that?

Love to see them ALL home.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2004, 10:05:43 AM »
End of next year = After the election ... :rolleyes:

I'd LIKE to see them all home, too, but..well..you know...

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2004, 10:08:11 AM »
I doubt it was the US that wanted any delay. It's a start though and long past time that we left these countries that are clearly no longer war-ravaged and more than able to take care of themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2004, 10:10:46 AM »
Will they be coming "home" or just being forward deployed to a different front?

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2004, 10:12:13 AM »
Wait a minute...... North Korea has WMD's!!!

Aren't they next on our hit list?

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2004, 10:13:25 AM »
the basing structures that the US has in those locations cannot be abandoned over night. Next year is a very agressive timeline I would say.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2004, 10:15:16 AM »
Bring'em all home.

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2004, 10:15:45 AM »
WMD's but no oil - my guess is probably not...

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2004, 10:46:16 AM »
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Originally posted by mosgood
Wait a minute...... North Korea has WMD's!!!

Aren't they next on our hit list?

Clearly a job for the U.N.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2004, 10:49:54 AM »
The NK's do have WMD's. But let the SK's plan for meeting the conventional threat. Let us move our troops out of the area. Easier to respond to any atomic aggression in kind that way. Harsh, but there it is. Conventional, the SK's should handle it; their economy is far better off than the NK's. Atomic? They can just phone in the coordinates and we'll deliver.  ;)

I think they'll initially be redeployed to Iraq, but maybe not. The Iraqi government is taking shape, there's an agreement to disband most of the militias and reincorporate them into Iraqi national forces and a clear intent to have the multi-national force leave Iraq. Distressing, isn't it? ;)

And after Iraq, I'm sure the troops won't be going back to Korea.

There may be stops on the path, but this path leads to bringing them home.

A very positive step, IMO. The 41,000 in Japan and the 72,000 in Germany ought be come home too. ASAP.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2004, 10:59:41 AM »
Reducing our overseas forces is long overdue. Not suggesting we further reduce our military but billions have been funneled into the economies of those countries where we have troops. We can maintain a substantial active force here in the US ready for worldwide deployment while allowing our own citizens to reap the benefits associated with maintaining military bases.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2004, 11:00:04 AM »
Thank God. It's about time.

To all the nay-sayers out there: be our guest! Why dontcha go ahead and handle that little issue ;)

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2004, 11:20:02 AM »
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
WMD's but no oil - my guess is probably not...


You know what's laughable? The Iraqis are doing very well at maintaining control of their oil industry. We're rebuilding it for them better than it was under SH and basically, we'll get no more than any other country out of this deal. They'll be selling to everyone and we're not going to get any special price.

Your war/oil slogans are just more misdirection and baloney.

Maybe what really burns you is that we're giving and you're not. I guess to feel good about that, you have to say stuff like this.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2004, 11:23:25 AM »
Many younger South Koreans today see the United States as an impediment to re-unification of North and South Korea.  Just another example, in a endless list of examples, of failure being hard wired into the human experience.

I must say that if the US withdraws all its troops it should be with the understanding that US forces will never again defend South Korea from aggression.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2004, 11:30:38 AM »
sounds like a great plan, start with SK and then start on all the other countries we are stationed in.

like AKIron said, there is plenty of places in this country who's economy could use the lift that the stationing of a few thousand troops would provide.

I'm all for it, I hope it plays out, and doesn't become just another "checks in the mail", election year pipe-dream.