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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2004, 09:23:52 PM »
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Web search.."Operation Desert Storm"


So you missed it when President Bush came on TV  days after Iraq invaded Kuwait and committed the US to getting Iraq out of Kuwait.  "this agression will not stand" ring a bell ?
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2004, 09:27:54 PM »
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Rwanda had a tyranical leader....why didn't you go and FREE them

NO INTEREST IN THE REGION...thats why

but Kuwait was different.....


Maybe you prefer to fault the US for not liberating every other chit-hole, but why should we? Would you?

You are grasping at straws.
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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2004, 09:31:53 PM »
damn nuke.....you answer quickly....you workin?

I am:rofl


just tryin to tell ya that it was based on INTEREST you had in the region....

I never said that what WE did in Kuwait(the allies) was bad....I just don't like hearing it was to Liberate(cause that ain't right)
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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2004, 09:32:06 PM »
SLO, I said the US will look out for our interests. Don't you?

I never said we went into Iraq for the reason of freeing the Iraqis. I said the only reason Iraq is liberated was because of the US.

Can you tell me what you consider damaging to either Canada, the world or Iraqis as a result of our action in Iraq? Tell me what the worst thing about the Iraq war is.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2004, 09:36:37 PM »
I gotta go in 5.....will answer tomorrow sorry
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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2004, 01:37:49 AM »
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So you missed it when President Bush came on TV  days after Iraq invaded Kuwait and committed the US to getting Iraq out of Kuwait.  "this agression will not stand" ring a bell ?


you missed it when  Bushes ambassador told Huessain 2 weeks before that that the US thought the Kuwiet-Iraq border dispute was not a US issue.
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« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2004, 04:36:37 AM »
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So how do you determine that Iran is a threat? You must be an inteligence officer in high places.


US Intellegence knew for sure Irak's had WMD and Uranium cells :rolleyes:

I need to be out of this kind of monologue. Everyone camping his position. Arguing on Internet is just a waist of time. Back to work :D
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« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2004, 05:44:38 AM »
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you missed it when  Bushes ambassador told Huessain 2 weeks before that that the US thought the Kuwiet-Iraq border dispute was not a US issue.


I believe what the US ambassodor said to the Iraqi diplomat was..."We seek peacefull relations with our Iraqi friends...and regarding your border dispute with Kuwait,we have no opinion."

Also in Congress,the Bush administration was asked what would happen if Iraq invaded Kuwait..The answer said outloud.."No military action"

At the time,Iraq was a US ally...A stern warning from US  would have prevented 2 wars and hundreds of thousands of lives(learn from our mistakes in 1939 eg. Neville Chambelain)

Kuwait was overproducing oil in violation OPEC quotas..this drove the price of oil down costing Iraq over a billion dollars a day...Iraq tried to resolve the dispute,filed a greivance with the UN that got no attention,finally got Jordan to broker a deal with Kuwait regarding oil production but at the last moment the Kuwaiti's reneged...There was also the disputed oil feilds between Kuwait and Iraq which the Kuwaitis moved in on and took possession.The Kuwaiti's were also demanding payments for the war againsts Iran(which the US supported)

USA invades Panama...

Oliver North meets in a hotel with high ranking Iranian businessmen in Germany...he says on tape how US wants Iraq to be the next enemy and wants better relations with Iran(Iran Contra scandal)...Thus USA provided arms to both Iraq(including raw materials for WMD) and Iran at the same time.Rumsfeld is photographed shaking hands with Saddam.

Warsaw Pact was over with the fall of USSR iron curtain....New enemies had to be found or there would have been calls for drastic reductions in US "Defense" spending.
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2004, 06:22:05 AM »
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Kuwait was overproducing oil in violation OPEC quotas..this drove the price of oil down costing Iraq over a billion dollars a day...Iraq tried to resolve the dispute,filed a greivance with the UN that got no attention,finally got Jordan to broker a deal with Kuwait regarding oil production but at the last moment the Kuwaiti's reneged...There was also the disputed oil feilds between Kuwait and Iraq which the Kuwaitis moved in on and took possession.The Kuwaiti's were also demanding payments for the war againsts Iran(which the US supported)


This is all true; furthermore there's evidence to suggest that it was elements within the US establishment who were encouraging the Kuwaitis in this stance. The end result was that Iraq was provoked into military action then slapped down, disarmed and effectively discarded as a once firm US ally having outlived its usefulness.
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2004, 08:57:56 AM »
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This is all true; furthermore there's evidence to suggest that it was elements within the US establishment who were encouraging the Kuwaitis in this stance. The end result was that Iraq was provoked into military action then slapped down, disarmed and effectively discarded as a once firm US ally having outlived its usefulness.


Funny how nobody wants to open this pandoras box.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2004, 09:02:05 AM »
funny how those who would love to believe it can't find any evidence.

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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2004, 09:09:59 AM »
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funny how those who would love to believe it can't find any evidence.

lazs


Are you referring to WMD Lazs?
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« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2004, 01:32:19 PM »
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Yes, you stayed out and watched until some terrorist organisation needed your military assistance to fight police forces...

 


Boroda, I guess this is the kind of thing "police forces" did in your country?

Bosnian Serbs admit to massacre

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In July 1995, several thousand Muslims were liquidated in a way that represents grave violations of international humanitarian law," said Persic, quoting from the report. Persic is a spokesman for Paddy Ashdown, Bosnia's international administrator
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« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2004, 03:19:02 PM »
Iran wants recognition as nuclear nation

It's getting better.

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"Iran has to be taken seriously," Kharrazi said. "Iran is powerful and has to be recognized as a responsible member of the atomic club, this is inevitable. Iran will not give up its rights to the peaceful use of atomic energy as well as its right to supply nuclear fuel to its power plants."

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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2004, 03:37:02 PM »
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Iran must be very afraid about pissing off the UN.......  
 


Well ... i dont know why do you think that Iran MUST be .... but here is reality
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3801187.stm
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