Ki-100 - we can get it easier than other IJAAF fighter...

[Replicant]

Pyro mentioned that they'd want to try and do variants of existing aircraft as well as new aircraft eventually.  Wouldn't the Ki100 be a variant of the Ki61 with the addition of the radial engine instead of the DB?  I guess it would be easier to model than doing a completely new plane?

[Glasses]

Come on Brady at least a Ki-43 instead of a Ki-21 for early war variant give the IJAAF a fighting chance eh?

[Karnak]

Mitsu,

The thing that the Japanese planeset simply cannot do anything about right now is speed.  Even the Ki-84 won't completely fix that, but it will substatially narrow the gap.  The Ki-100 is probably a fun fighter, but it is slower than the N1K2-J and was built in even fewer numbers, all in 1945.

The Ki-84 entered service before the P-51D and was built in huge numbers by Japanese standards.  The Ki-84 will actually give the Japanese an aircraft useable in 1944 scenarios that will change the way the USN and USAAF have to fly.  Right now they can be incredibly sloppy in their tactics because they have so much of a speed advantage that the Japanese really can't do anything about them.

[ra]

IMHO we need the Ki-44, Ki-43, and Ki-84 before we go for the rare and probably disappointing Ki-100.

The Ki-44 would be my first choice, it would give the Jap planeset a much needed BnZ plane.

ra

[brady]

I used to realy think the Ki-44 was the way to go for an early war climber for Japan, but the Ki-61-Ib actualy out climbs it, for the early war perioud, handels better than it would and has a better gun package, when you get to mid war a bit later your looking at overlap with the Ki-84 and it is way better than a Ki-44.

 Dont get me wrong I realy want them all:), I m just trying to be selective in what I lobby for in the short run, so we get some stuff to fill the gaps as quickely and as easly for HTC to do as is posable.

[Karnak]

I'd still like to see the Ki-44-IIb, with the gun options for the IIc so you could choose an anti-bomber armament or an anti-fighter armament.

Ki-44-Ia:
Wingspan, 31 ft. 1/16 in.;
length, 28 ft. 8 ½ in.;
height, 10 ft. 8 in.;
wing area, 161.458 sq. ft.;
empty weight, 4,286 lb.;
loaded weight, 5,622 lb.;
maximum weight, 6,363 lb.;
wing loading, 34.8 lb./sq. ft.;
power loading, 4.4 lb./hp;
maximum speed, 360 mph at 12,140 ft.;
cruising speed, 249 mph at 13,125 ft.;
climb to 16,405 ft., 5 min. 54 sec.;
service ceiling, 35,500 ft.;
normal range, 575 miles;
maximum range, 1,070 miles.

Ki-44-IIb:
Wingspan, 31 ft. 1/16 in.;
length, 28 ft. 9 7/8 in.;
height, 10 ft. 8 in.;
wing area, 161.458 sq. ft.;
empty weight, 4,643 lb.;
loaded weight, 6,094 lb.;
maximum weight, 6,598 lb.;
wing loading, 37.7 lb./sq. ft.;
power loading, 4 lb./hp;
maximum speed, 376 mph at 17,060 ft.;
cruising speed, 249 mph at 13,125 ft.;
climb to 16,405 ft, 4 min. 17 sec.;
service ceiling, 36,745 ft.;
normal range, 805 miles;
maximum range, 1,056 miles.

[Mitsu]

Originally posted by brady
but as Karnak mentioned reliabality issues are not a factor in AH

I never pointed reliability, and date.
Aces High doesn't have RDP or RPG system.
The date is not important.

Of course IJAAF fan needs Ki-84 first in Aces High 2.
Ki-44 is also great fighter. But it would be Japanese La-5 which has poor ammo (it might turns better though).

[Mitsu]

Originally posted by brady
When I compare the Ki-100 to the Ki-61 I see that the planes are close preformance wise, with the Ki-100 being slower on avaeage and psoosesing a generaly pore rate of climb (depending on modle your looking at).

 The Ki-61-Ib is the best climber of all models.

Ki-61-Ib is not best climber.

Ki-61-Ib climbs to 5000m at 5'30", to 8000m at 10'48".
Ki-100-I climbs to 5000m at 6'00", to 8000m at 10'47".

Ki-61 has 30 seconds advantage against Ki-100 at 5000m on the surface.

But you forgot engine power.
Ki-61-Ib has 1175hp engine, Ki-100 has 1500hp.
This advantage gives climb power and acceleration.
This also means Ki-100 gets energy easily.
It can accelerate to the top speed quickly than Ki-61.
it is important factor in combat.

[ra]

This also means Ki-100 gets energy easily.
It can accelerate to the top speed quickly than Ki-61.
it is important factor in combat.

If the Ki-100 won't out climb the Ki-61, then it won't out accelerate it.

ra

[brady]

Dates are important for Scenarious, the CT, and events, placxes whear the Japanese plane set is in real nead of some filling in, this is another reasion the Ki-61-Ib is so apealing, it would realy help.

  Mitsu, it is still the better climber to 5,000M, thats like 15 K ft, prety much all combat in AH takes place from 15K down, so its preformance is still better realy, and as ra pointed out:

"If the Ki-100 won't out climb the Ki-61, then it won't out accelerate it. "

[Mitsu]

Climb time data is so important?

then:
N1K2-J - climbs to 6000m 7 minutes 22 seconds.
Ki-100-I - climbs to 6000m 7 minutes 26 seconds.

so Do N1K2 and Ki-100 have almost same acceleration?

[Mitsu]

The Japanese document says Ki-100 out-maneuvered Ki-61 prototype (most light version of Ki-61). Ki-61/Ki-100 pilot and Kawasaki engineer said so too. But you guys deny it. I can't understand it.

[ra]

Originally posted by Mitsu
The Japanese document says Ki-100 out-maneuvered Ki-61 prototype (most light version of Ki-61). Ki-61/Ki-100 pilot and Kawasaki engineer said so too. But you guys deny it. I can't understand it.

The Ki-100 was significantly heavier than the early Ki-61, but had the same wing.  How could it out-manuever it?  

Perhaps the Ki-100 had a lower wing loading than the later Ki-61's, assuming the radial engine was lighter than the liquid cooled one.  They shared the same airframe, so only the engine could account for a weight difference.

ra

[Mitsu]

One of answer...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=117989

[brady]

Mitsu, I am not readily denying that the Ki-100 did not out manuaver the Ki-61, I beleave I said that it was basicaly a beter handeling Ki-61 up above.
  The main argument for not doing a Ki-100 Now imo is that:

 It is not realy any better preformance wise than the Ki-61 we have now, and it will requier a lot of work to build about the same as a brand new fighter. That being so I would rather see a Ki-84 added in stead of the Ki-100. The best preforming Ki-61 could be easly added and it would out preform the Ki-100 and be far more usefull in all of AH for events scenarious, and the CT, ect.

Mitsu, did you see the post on the Ki-84 I made, do your figures match those that guy is claming for the Ki-84, he says the Ki-84 could do 415 to 420 MPH?