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Offline Mitsu

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« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2004, 11:35:17 PM »
The most of Japanese fighters are slow but maneuverable.
The Ki-100 would be like heavy but faster and powerful Ki-43 or A6M. That is enough deadly especially in the furball.

The Ki-84 is highest performance fighter of Japan.
I know, This fighter only could counter against P-51H and P-47N at performance.

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« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2004, 06:33:27 PM »
Hi all,

This is an interesting question!

I normally think Francillon was a very reliable author and many books written since his first edition have not done any research they just source Francillon.

But, in this case he screwed up.
I think.

Here we go.
The -THINTS were ongoing and the OSS wanted info on the radial Ki-61. There was no real surviving data so they interviewed engineers again.
They asked what was the top speed of the Ki-61b; 367mph.
What was the top speed of the Ki-61-2; 379mph.
Now, about that radial engined Ki-61(Ki-100), how fast was it? The engineers did not give a number, they  said 7mph slower than the Ki-61-2.

Did you see the 2 there? I read that report 3 times before i caught it! Doh!
Francillon subtracted 7mph from the speed of the model 1 not the model 2!

So, the Ki100 did 372mph or so according to the Japanese engineers.
Not a lot better but it is something.

Mike

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« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2004, 10:54:39 PM »
I believe "A" prefixed planes are carrierborne fighters and "N" (as in N1K_) are land-based Naval fighters.

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« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2004, 12:30:30 AM »
Building a planeset?

 Simple start with the earliest planes first :) Heck even throw in some f2 bips. :)

The 51's nikis, ect..all the late models - perk em to hell....
Force folks to use the early to mid varients.


I mean, what's the point - If there's a free choice....everyone is gonna fly the "newest, baddest bird" thats out. Chew em up, spit em out - kill,kill,kill!! Where's the romance in that?

I have to take up "uber" planes, just becauses theres so many other "uber" planes coming at you sometimes...add more of the fast and powerful planes...that's all that will be flying.

Since we already have alot of folks in 51's 38s, nikis / la7s and spits.......why add to those peers?

I believe there should be more peers to the hurricane 1, spit 1&5,
109 E /F..... Even it out and perk the late mod rides. More so than they are now.

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« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2004, 12:38:33 AM »
"So, the Ki100 did 372mph or so according to the Japanese engineers. "

 Interesting.

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« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2004, 03:13:40 AM »
Alt / Ki 100-I / Ki-100-II (km/h)
1km / 510 / 500
5km / 567 / 560
6km / 580 / 570
8km / 570 / 585
10km / 535 / 565

Time to Height
5km / 6'00" / 6'40"
8km / 11'30" / 11'30"
10km / 20'00" / 20'00"

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« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2004, 03:05:37 PM »
Hi all,

Butch2k,
where did you get those numbers?

Just quoting a modern or near modern source will not convince me.
Read my part about finding out where an author found his data.

Mike

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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2004, 05:38:44 PM »
Ok... i went to the library and got a book whose title is roughly translated to "Hien, Fly to the Big Sky of Decisive Battle"
ISBN4-7698-0553-5C0095),

On page 369, it says that on July 25, 1944, Major Kobayashi took a flight of 18 Ki100s over Youkaichi City near Kyoto City and battled a flight of F6Fs, shooting down 12 at a loss of one.  Can this be confirmed by American sources? Sound like the Okinawa encounter as posted before.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2004, 05:32:18 PM by FDutchmn »

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« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2004, 03:00:12 PM »
holy cow! I want to see it in AH2! :D







« Last Edit: November 09, 2004, 03:03:02 PM by Mitsu »

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« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2004, 04:19:17 PM »






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« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2004, 10:38:28 PM »
Mitsu, I'm with you all the way on this one.

The Ki-100 wasn't the fastest IJAAF plane, but it was by far the best at 19,000+ feet.

At that altitude, it could turn *very* well, even at low speeds, due to its wingspan. It had good acceleration, good climb, and it could turn better than the Ki-61.

It out-classes the 61 in every way, except for low-level climb rate.

However, one thing most of you are forgetting is flight time. To the best of my recollection, the Ki-100 had about the same, if not more, flight time than a P-51D (100% fuel with no extra tanks).

Since most of you are too strange to fly at high altitudes, this will not be much of a factor. But face it: Flying at higher altitudes is more efficient, and makes for better combat.

The Ki-100 would be one of my top rides. It's a great plane that should not be overlooked because of its average speed.