Agp Pci

[Hawklore]

AGP Fit into PCI slot and work?




My dad said so...

[1K0N]

With the correct Hammer it will!! you gotta hit that sucker just right!

IKON

[Hawklore]

Thought so...

[AKIron]

Nope, sorry, won't fit or work. Does the motherboard have integrated video? If so, you'll want to disable that before booting with a new pci video card in place.

[Hawklore]

I have an AGP card, and PCI slots...

My dad seems to think from an e-mail from Emachines that they will fit.. I'll post e-mail in a sec.



-E-mail-

Re: Email ID 5765823

Dear Josh Turner:

Thank you for contacting eMachines.

I understand that you want to know if your T2742 eMachines computer has
an AGP slot.  In addition, you want to know if you can remove the video
card and sound card of your T2742 eMachines computer.

I would like to inform you the T2742 eMachines computer do not have an
AGP slot.  However, it has three PCI slots (version 2.2) you can use if
you would like to install a new video card. I think thats what got my dad.

In addition, the video card and sound card of your system are onboard
therefore we are unable to remove them.

Note: Please be aware that eMachines cannot recommend any 3rd party
upgrades.  There are several reasons for this.  There are simply too many
types of 3rd party upgrades for eMachines or any computer company to
test in their systems, so they can then recommend them to their
customers.  In addition, an end user's system may already have several new 3rd
party devices or software packages installed, therefore changing the
system to a different configuration.  This could cause a great deal of
conflicts between devices and software on the system.

I understand how difficult an issue like this can be and it is my hope
that this information will be helpful to you.

Should you require further assistance with your eMachines system,
please feel free to send another message.  Your comments and suggestions are
welcome.

Sincerely,
Julius

Oh and btw, we were only considering buying the comp, but I have to say the tech support e-mailed me within less then a day of my question.

[xrtoronto]

there is a significant difference in the speed of the AGP port in general, and especially the newer motherboards.

You can use pci if you want, but just a note, there's a reason why
they produce agp card 10 to 1 over the pci cards now

[AKIron]

Still won't fit. You did answer my question about the onboard video. You'll need a pci video card. You can try the new card before disabling the on board video. Shutdown the pc, install the new card, connect it to the monitor. Turn the pc on and install the new drivers. If all goes well, reboot into the bios and disable the onboard video.

[Hawklore]

Yeah, I'd rather have an AGP slot, but, -shrug-.

Is their any adapter

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Hawklore
Yeah, I'd rather have an AGP slot, but, -shrug-.

Is their any adapter

No.

[Russian]

http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_abuse.shtml

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A customer had bought a computer from us about a year ago and a Voodoo 3 card just yesterday. He took it home and tried to install it but couldn't, so he brought them both in this morning. He ranted and raved, etc. He had reboxed the Voodoo 3, expecting a replacement, so we took the computer and the Voodoo 3 in the back and told him we would fit it for free. When we opened the box for the Voodoo 3, it was in a terrible state. The bit of metal that attaches the card to the case was taken off, and a wee heatsink had been scraped off the chip with a screwdriver. I reglued the sink and reattached the backplate. So we opened the machine, and tried to fit the card. Ack. Card is AGP, computer has exactly zero AGP slots. So we went back to the front.


Me: "Sir, your computer has no AGP slots, and this is an AGP video card."
Customer: "Yeah, but the card fit perfectly into the little white slot."
Me: "Which white slot?"
Guy: "There's five of them -- little white ones. There's a spare one."
Me: "The PCI slot? Uhh...it shouldn't...let me check."
Sure enough, if you remove the heatsink and backplate, turn the card around, and really hammer it into the only free PCI slot, it will just fit snugly next to the hard disk.

We explained that the AGP card was completely destroyed and he had voided the warranty on it by hacking away at it with a screwdriver. The usual mad customer vs. techie exchange ensued, but he eventually backed down and bought the PCI version instead...and got us to fit it.



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I hope this helps :-)

[Charon]

At the very least try to negoiate something with an AGP slot. Trade the "extras" you mentioned in the other post for a better base system. That one is only good for office/Web surfing etc.

Charon

[Hawklore]

Thanks I'll get my screwdriver out..

[sling322]

Dude....dont buy an E-machine.  They are the absolute sorriest computer you can buy.  They may be cheap, but they are vitually un-upgradable.  You would be better off spending a little bit more and building your own system....that way you can upgrade it easily in the future.  I built my own last summer for around $500.  It would have been even less but I decided to get the new hard drive and the wireless keyboard and mouse combo.  If you have Fry's near you check them out.  They always have decent sales going on MB and chip combos.  Here is what I built:

AMD 2400 chip w/
ECS Motherboard
80 gig HD
Sony CD-RW drive
Antec tower case w/ 400 watt PS
assorted cables and fans of course

Grand total - $500

The only thing that I took off my old system to put into the new one was the vid card.  The MB I bought uses DDR or SDRAM so I even saved a bit there to start with by using my old SDRAM.  I upgraded later but to start with it was a cost saving measure.  It may sound hard to do, but I pretty much had no experience building computers.  I could swap a card out and install OSs and stuff, but the MB manual had step by step instructions and it was really easy to follow.  Dont let that be a deterrent to doing it yourself....there are plenty of folks here on the board that can give you a tutorial on how to put one together.

[Rude]

PCI Express is coming soon

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Rude
PCI Express is coming soon

Will be interesting to see how well it performs compared to AGP.

Don't buy one of those Hawklore, you won't be able to use it either.