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« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2004, 12:58:20 AM »
Removing SH was not one of the pre-war stated goals. I challenge you to find a quote of Bush saying that throughout the discussion period in the UN.

Yes, right now, I'd be much happier if we had not invaded.

Anthrax? Are YOU happier now that it is either:

A) non-existent and never was there

B) still there but we don't know where it is

C) in Syria, where the government is very chummy with know Islamic terrorist organizations

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Iraq contained? Pretty much for now. Tell me how it will be after we leave. Because we're gonna leave and it will be shorter rather than longer.
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« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2004, 12:58:48 AM »
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All his weapons, spare nuclear, have a very limited shelf life.


Yes, so if he buried them all and they decay under ground because Hussein is no longer in power, it not that the elimination of the threat of him using/distributing WMD?

Hey, I'm like you, I'd like to see the coalition dig up tons of WMD.

Please remember France, Germany, the U.N, and others said repeatedly that Iraq possessed WMD.
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« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2004, 12:59:28 AM »
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I'm just saddened that I have to use my intelect against the likes of Toad ...


Well, go ahead and trot it out then. Let's see it.
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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2004, 01:00:01 AM »
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there are terrorist camps in Saudi Arabia,


Really?  were is this shown?  discussed?
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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2004, 01:01:04 AM »
Nite time for me.

Cyas tomorrow.
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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2004, 01:01:57 AM »
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Well, go ahead and trot it out then. Let's see it.


for starters, you say that Iraqs WMD may be in Syria, yet you also say the war against Iraq was based on a "lie" regarding WMD


We can proceed from here if you like.

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« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2004, 01:02:50 AM »
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Nite time for me.

Cyas tomorrow.


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« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2004, 01:03:16 AM »
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Really?  were is this shown?  discussed?


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Thursday, 15-Jan-2004 4:10AM      Story from United Press International
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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Jan. 15 (UPI) -- Saudi security forces discovered desert camps outside major cities used for arms and explosives training for terrorists, reports said.

An official security source who requested anonymity, was quoted Thursday in the Saudi daily Okaz as saying the clandestine military camps were commanded by terrorists wanted by the Saudi authorities. Two of the terrorists reportedly were killed in the last year.

"Security agencies have proofs they were going into the desert to get military training and these camps were set up specifically for that purpose," the source said.

He said the authorities have discovered the locations of all these camps as well as the training programs that were being offered.

"Certain commanders of these camps are still at large and the security forces are deploying maximum efforts to get to them," he added.

The source said arms, explosives and ammunition were confiscated from the camps.
 
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2004, 01:03:17 AM »
Right Steve, but the problem I forsee is that most of his weapons came prior 1991. Most of his weapons, spare nuclear of course, were limited to something like 6 years max in proper storage.

I'd love to see our troops find even a limited cache of these things and they still be active, I'd sleep much better at night. However, to date we haven't found much of anything that reinforces our reasons.

Just me of course, I'd feel horrible if our integrity went south due to this.
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2004, 01:03:26 AM »
I proclaim victory!

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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2004, 01:04:41 AM »
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I proclaim victory!


Works for me. :aok
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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2004, 01:05:31 AM »
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Logic? Okay... you're entitled to your opinion. Some of us have trouble with your logic though.

 

How about the people that actually performed the attack?


Ok would you rather have waited to be attacked again before we did anything?

I personally would rather kill a rattlesnake first before I wait around to see if he bites me first.

Not saying they had less of a reason. But they certainly had no more of a reason.
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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2004, 01:06:11 AM »
I must say Toad, I never figured on butting heads with you, but man, you really seemed to have a view about Iraq that seems short-sighted at best.

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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2004, 01:08:36 AM »
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I personally would rather kill a rattlesnake first before I wait around to see if he bites me first.


If you give the rattlesnake room to retreat, it will. It's more afraid of you than you are of it.
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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2004, 01:10:48 AM »
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If you give the rattlesnake room to retreat, it will. It's more afraid of you than you are of it.


What if that rattlesnake hade a nuke in its bellly? Would you leave it alone?