Author Topic: new system for AHII question (Read 687 times)

JB73 · « **on:** June 10, 2004, 10:56:38 AM »

ok pair this with a Geforce Ti4800 video card
segate 40GB 7200 rpm Hard drive

Processor
Motherboard
Memory (2 Sticks)

those would be upgrades from Xp1800
768MB Pc2100 ddr
MSI MB (i forget the model)

all would be free since i would sell my old parts to roommate (i have ZERO money for better stuff out of my own pocket)

any one see a problem with these parts?

JB73 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:19:29 AM »

BTW i'd sell him:

Athlon XP1800: $50
MSI Motherboard: $50
768mb PC2100 $75
western digital 20gb $75
PC ATX tower $25
optional 32mb video $25 (GF mx400 or 200 series i dont remember)

total: $300

that gives me enough to buy the above parts.

am i being too generous with the used parts? (maybe the memory is worth more but i dunno).

JB73 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:19:40 PM »

bump...

noone have any thoughts on this?

snapperhead · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:28:54 PM »

You are paying for a name with Crucial for the same price you can get Kingston PC3200. Also your processor is OEM which means no heatsink or fan.........Your gonna need those, or so is your roomate. My advice give him the HS/Fan you got and buy a good one for yourself. With a good HS/FAN combo the kingston PC3200 and the Barton 2500 you can easily run that sucker at a 200Mhz FSB or about 2.2Ghz

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-425&depa=1

snapperhead · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:33:57 PM »

Your motherboard is meant to be clocked up to 200MHz Front Side Bus hence the Ultra 400 Designation. With the Crucial memory you have chosen its gonna be tought to ever do that as the memory only runs 166mhz.

JB73 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:48:29 PM »

i got 3 heatsinks with fans, 2 unused...
this is the one im using right now:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-037&depa=1

roommate also has to by a floppy, cdrom, moniter, keyboard, mouse, sound card, IDE cables, power supply, and case fans.

dont worry about the techincal aspects of it. im more concerned with compatibility with AHII.

i was hoping for somone with a similar system to respond with how AHII is running for them.

ty though

JB73 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:53:13 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by snapperhead
Your motherboard is meant to be clocked up to 200MHz Front Side Bus hence the Ultra 400 Designation. With the Crucial memory you have chosen its gonna be tought to ever do that as the memory only runs 166mhz.

i dont plan on overclocking at all...

i just chose the memory with the same bus speed as the processer.

thats one thing i dont know a ton about...

from the specs on the motherboard:
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM support DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB

seeing as the XP2500 is a 333 FSB and the board supporst 400, 333, 266, RAM i choes the 333.

is that the wrong choice? (remember im not going to overclock)

dodger · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2004, 05:54:46 PM »

I have a very close system to yours I am just running a 3000+ barton and 512 ddr 400 mem. my Vid is gforce ti5200 256

AH 2 runs great.

zmeg · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2004, 06:20:18 PM »

The faster ram will have a lower latency so it will speed up your system a bit even without overclocking. I don't recomend the MSI mobo, there known for premature failure.
Is youe G4 TI 8x or 4x, there is a big performance differance. My system is a 2400+ with a ti4200 8x, it runs 50 to 75 fps at 1600 x 1200 x 32 x75.

ergRTC · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2004, 06:41:06 PM »

if you can get your roomy will pay that much for that stuff, give it to him quick!

Flit · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2004, 08:25:24 PM »

For @ $100 more you can
P4P800 deluxe MB (Asus) $139
P4 2.6 chip $147
512 meg Cruciel PC3200 RAM $125
with a ati 9600xt 128mb
and a gig of RAM, I'm gettin Frame rates of 125- 150 in AH2
Just a thought

JB73 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2004, 09:20:34 PM »

zemg ..my MB now is an MSI, and have had it 3 years. my best friend has had his for over 2 years. i have had 3 asus boards go bad, and have heard about unreliable support from aopen, abit, and a few of the other major manufactuers.

ty for concern but i'm going to stick with the MSI.

yes Ti is capable of 8x, though current MB is only 4x.

Flit... FR over moniter refresh are false... turn on vsync.

ati is TEH SUX imho. nothing but bad drivers and zero support available, last ati card i had never got working properly, and after 6 emails for support without a response i will never use a product of theirs again.

also why would i want to get rid of my Ti4800 that benchmarks above a 9500, and i just got less than a year ago?

also intel is never going to out-perform amd in gaming from what i have read.

also i mentioned i have ZERO funds of my own. all this depends on my roommate buying my old gear. (im moving in 15 days into my own apt, and will have less than $80/week for gas, cigs, food, soda, beer, whatever.. meaning NO PC upgrades until i get a better job, or large raise).

Flit · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:33:47 PM »

was just a thought

my shappire ati 9600xt has been flawless since I got it ,altho i have heard some people got bad ones + vsyic is on;)
and that 800 fsb is SWEET

as for funds:
Skip the beer $5 2 sixes = $80 in 4 weeks( 2 6's a week would be a conservative estimate, nothing implied)
skip the cigs $3 a pack, 1 pack a day=$21 a week = $84 in 4 weeks
agian, just a thought
and my SM Nadz might have a ati 9800 pro for sale cheap
(might be gone, not sure)
he's thinks $2 and he pays shipping ain't enough (prvt joke)

Octavius · « **Reply #13 on:** June 11, 2004, 12:06:50 AM »

STAY AWAY FROM AOPEN. A silly CDROM (which has been smashed to pieces) porked my HDD last year. Unrecoverable.

Don't rip your roommate off

Save a little bit.

If you want an upgrade that will last a year or two and can scrounge the money, I would suggest going with a Socket 754 motherboard and throw in an AMD 64bit CPU (3000-3400+) and a gig of ram.

I just did that and couldnt be happier. Wont have to worry about all that FSB crapola. Which ram is better for this motherboard, can i overclock it, 512, 1gig, 50 gigs, help! Athlon 64s are incredibly fast and are awesome for gaming. Plus, once 64bit applications debut (Windows Longhorn O/S in a year or two), you'll be prepared to run it and can take advantage of the 64bit process.

Athlon 64 3000+
MSI K8T Neo (Socket 754)
1G Kingston RAM
^ You wont be doing any overclocking with that ram, but it gets the job done just as good as the more expensive stuff (Mushkin, Corsair, etc) With one gig, the whole system flies. I bought two sticks in May and got a neat rebate offer. Came out to about $170 for two sticks of 512.

$223
$92
$200
~$515

JB73 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2004, 02:04:35 PM »

ty for advise all.. roommate has no money to buy.

im SOL.

wont be doing any upgrades for next few years i guess.

flit LOL...

beer expense: $7.14 every other friday. (one 12 pack miller high life light).

smokes: $3.50 every other day (about 1/2 pack per day weekdays, a bit more on weekends).

honestly, those are my only personal entertainment other than AH, so i dont think i'll be giving them up soon (what would i do then? sit in my living room alone and stare at the wall LMAO).

i'll just have to live with the graphics the way they are.