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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2004, 03:35:22 PM »
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grun... I am sure that you would find local laws that prohibit an adult from talking filthy to children?  

The FCC governs the FREE PUBLIC airwaves.   stern signed on to their rules and now he is cryuing foul.  He is simply a lazy no talent who can't make it unless he can get an audience who doesn't pay to hear him.   He can say anthing he wants so long as he doesn'[t spew filth at children or anyone who happens to tune into him by accident.

He may say whatever he likes on cable radio too but.... he may be restricted by the owners of the satalite station.  

We are the public and we are restricting him from what words he can say on public radio.

he is a low talent crybaby who can't make it with competition.   his fawning staff is feeding his narsism and paranoia.

In short... we are the public and we set rules as to what can be said on public airwaves... we set the same standards on television but allow anything goes on cable pay per view.  

He is not lenny bruce fighting the good fight.. lenny bruce spoke in a nightclub with paying customers who kenw what to expect.

you don't have children but you sure don't want to have the airwaves ruled by the likes of stern when you are in a car full of children flipping through the stations.

lazs


Who cares if he is untalented. The 1st amemdement does not mention talent as a prerequisite for speech rights...

And you sday that public radio is censored, well thats fine too, our citizens have made those laws - even if I disagree. But then we we shouldnt turn around and make threads saying how we feel France is bad because they made laws that restrict free speech, because we do it too.

And thats coming from the #1 French basher on the BBS...

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« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2004, 03:41:28 PM »
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Who cares if he is untalented. The 1st amemdement does not mention talent as a prerequisite for speech rights...

And you sday that public radio is censored, well thats fine too, our citizens have made those laws - even if I disagree. But then we we shouldnt turn around and make threads saying how we feel France is bad because they made laws that restrict free speech, because we do it too.

And thats coming from the #1 French basher on the BBS...


Ok, who ever put the quarter in this kid please hit the return change lever.

If I thought he was trolling it would be cool but I think he means it!

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« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2004, 12:23:49 PM »
you miss the point grun... you don't vote yet you complain that public standards are as they are in the FCC...

The fact that stern is untalented has nothing to do with it except that because he is so untalented he has to push the edge of the smut envelope on REGULATED airwaves.... If he had talent then he could compete in either the public airwaves avoiding smut and staying within the rules or.... compete as a smut boy against other talented smut boys.

He can voice any opinion he wants tho so long as he stays within the language laws of the FCC... He often has a KKK member on spouting his views and has never been censored for his political views... that is far different than the french example.

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« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2004, 12:43:16 PM »
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Good for him!
That is his right..

But I dont need the federal government to act as my parents...

Hello!  Where have all the individual liberty and responsibility conservatives gone?


Right here Grun. Some of us view the public airways the same as public streets. We don't allow sex or profanity in the streets either. Neither is prohibited, just can't be done in public streets. Now cable or books, complete freedom, unlike France. I suspect you'll understand this much more clearly when you begat a rugrat or two.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2004, 12:45:28 PM by AKIron »
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« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2004, 12:49:50 PM »
Skuzzy,
Saw is a damn fine tour guide.

He took us to the Beer Museum, (which was closed)...he wouldn't take us to the Army Museum, (which was open), he took us out to eat where the waiter would only speak french (in Brussels), and gave us a great tour around the Royal Palace (which was closed) in a nice Brussels rain shower!

Now having said all that he did the most important , and most redeeming thing of all, he kept our glasses full of fine Belgium Beer!!

In all seriousness, if you get the chance, Skuzzy, you should make a point to meet and spend some time with Saw. He was an excellent host!

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« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2004, 03:41:22 PM »
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I'm on for the wine ;)

Seriously Saw is wrong about rain in the Loire Valley it don't compare to britanny or Belgium :)
There just enought rain to make wine.

Loire Valley is touristic , there is a lot of old (and superb) castle ,food and wine are renowned and climate is pretty temperate even during hoit summer (like the one we go last year)

It's far less touristic and crowded than south places like Nice,Cannes or any mediterranean place.


Personnally I will start a visit here (http://www.tourisme-touraine.com/) and next continue the trip to the coast (http://www.westernloire.com/)


Well, when I mentioned it to my Wife she already had her finger on the map pointing at Loire Valley.  So it is a pretty much done deal.  I'll let you know when.
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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2004, 03:43:00 PM »
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Skuzzy,
Saw is a damn fine tour guide.

He took us to the Beer Museum, (which was closed)...he wouldn't take us to the Army Museum, (which was open), he took us out to eat where the waiter would only speak french (in Brussels), and gave us a great tour around the Royal Palace (which was closed) in a nice Brussels rain shower!

Now having said all that he did the most important , and most redeeming thing of all, he kept our glasses full of fine Belgium Beer!!

In all seriousness, if you get the chance, Skuzzy, you should make a point to meet and spend some time with Saw. He was an excellent host!


Hmmm,..maybe we can hit both sides on the next trip.  How far away via a train are you two,..straffo, Saw?  Get me some map coordinates.
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« Reply #97 on: June 15, 2004, 01:46:11 AM »
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Well, when I mentioned it to my Wife she already had her finger on the map pointing at Loire Valley.  So it is a pretty much done deal.  I'll let you know when.


hehe :) she is wise :)

I'm living in Evreux currently (50km south of Rouens or about 120 km south west of Paris)
But I've a god part of my familly and friends in Angers (close to the Loire between Nantes and Tours) so we can meet in either region.