Freedom of speech in France?

[rogwar]

Interesting...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040610/people_nm/france_bardot_dc_3


I don't agree with what she is saying but rather found it interesting the concept of being found guilty of a crime for such activity.

[Saintaw]

ROFL, the 1st words I read were "Brigitte Bardot", I need not read more

PS: read it... BB is married to one of the big right Wing (FN) in the south of France and a well known racsist. I'd slap her if I had the chance.

That being said, try to live amongst muslims every day puts things in perspective, most people here have known muslims prior to 91, and we DO make the difference between a culture and terrorists. (the population of muslim countries immigrant is pretty high in France, Germany, Belgium, Holland, UK, ... just about what yours would be with South Americans immigrants)

[Red Tail 444]

I guess all that armpit hair's making her irritable...she sounds almost Ann Coulter-ish, with a bit more of the wit and charm Ann never had...

[straffo]

To make a good portrait of her imagine she is a fervent/fanatic defensor of animal's right (for her an animal has more right than a human) ...

Let me recount a little story

once upon of time her neightbour had a male donkey that tried to fornicate with her female donkey (the donkey was smart he didn't try to do her ...)

No problem for "Madame" Bardot she called a veterinarian to emasculate the poor donkey ...

Do you still think she can still be seen as respectable ?

[majic]

Great, we can all agree she is an idiot.  But fining her for speaking her (no to sharp) mind?

[AKIron]

Apparently there is no freedom of speech in France. At least not what we consider it to be here in the US. PC seems to be law there.

[storch]

Waddaya know!!!  the nut jobs are critisizing the nut jobs!!!  those zany french people.

[GRUNHERZ]

Americans have to remember that our concept of fredom of speech is based on our  laws. It is not a universal law. Other countries have set different laws and so different definitions of freedom of speech.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Americans have to remember that our concept of fredom of speech is based on our  laws. Other countries have set different laws and so different definitions of freedom of speech.

We are making a comparison here. In America you are free to say or write just about anything you want provided you don't incite a riot, threaten physical violence, or libel/slander someone.

To fine someone $6000 in the US for writing a book about Muslims taking over the country would be considered absolute tyranny by most.

Imagine if Michael Moore were French and had focused the criticism of Fahrenheit 9/11 on France instead. He would have been heavily fined instead of presented some worthless award.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by AKIron
We are making a comparison here. In America you are free to say or write just about anything you want provided you don't incite a riot, threaten physical violence, or libel/slander someone.

To fine someone $6000 in the US for writing a book about Muslims taking over the country would be considered absolute tyranny by most.

If a $6,000 fine on prohibited speech is "absolute tryranny" how would you describe a $1,750,000 fine?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/09/fcc.clearchannel.ap/index.html

Just different laws, I'd prefer more free speech all round myself...

[AKIron]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
If a $6,000 fine on prohibited speech is "absolute tryranny" how would you describe a $1,750,000 fine?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/09/fcc.clearchannel.ap/index.html

Just different laws, I'd prefer more free speech all round myself...

For me it would be described as unpayable. See my edit on Moore.

[ravells]

Michael Moore is brilliant!

my 2 cents.

Ravs

[rogwar]

Originally posted by Saintaw
South Americans immigrants)

should be Latin American immigrants.

North America = Canada, USA, and Mexico

Central America = El Salvador, Belize (sometimes refered to as more Carribean), Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Panama

South America = Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, etc...

While I don't have the statistics available at the moment I'm sure that Mexico is number 1 in terms of illegal and maybe even legal immigration from the countries listed above.

Let this not be a topic on immigration. Don't want to hijack my own thread...lol. I just returned from Brazil yesterday morning (all night flight) and I sure miss the women. Now if someone wants to hijack my thread into a topic relating to Brazilian women, that's OK by me.

I've been around and Brazil is awesome. I believe I've got over 50 trips there by now. It was a work related trip but I stayed over in Rio and spent my 39th b-day there last Monday.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by ravells
Michael Moore is brilliant!

my 2 cents.

Ravs

If you think that then you are retarded. The man is a cheap liar who feeds his audiences exactly that which reeinforces their prejudices, tells them what they want to hear, want to belive, and most of all what they want to and desperately need to fear.

[ravells]

rogwar...you do realise that if you jack your own thread, Nash will give you a prize?

Ravs