AH2 has a "Fighter Only" arena?

[Furious]

I don't care if you landgrab.  I just see no point in taking land that noone is defending.

There is to much reward for avoiding conflict.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Furious
I don't care if you landgrab.  I just see no point in taking land that noone is defending.

There is to much reward for avoiding conflict.

So the war tactic of flanknig would be unacceptable to you? Taking a flank base usally dictates a base lightly defended.

[Furious]

This is always the excuse used by those who wish to avoid fighting other players.

...but, I would give it to ya if it was there were limits.  I would like to see a front line in the war.  6-8 fields for each side active on each front.  All other fields are dead.  As one field is captured by a team, then their most useless field on the front goes dead.  Clever tactics would need to be employed to pull off sneak attacks and flanking moves.  Not a hording milk run in some uninhabited place on the map.

Sneaking around 3 or 4 sectors away from any enemy activity isn't tactics, it's gamey BS.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Furious
This is always the excuse used by those who wish to avoid fighting other players.

...but, I would give it to ya if it was there were limits.  I would like to see a front line in the war.  6-8 fields for each side active on each front.  All other fields are dead.  As one field is captured by a team, then their most useless field on the front goes dead.  Clever tactics would need to be employed to pull off sneak attacks and flanking moves.  Not a hording milk run in some uninhabited place on the map.

Sneaking around 3 or 4 sectors away from any enemy activity isn't tactics, it's gamey BS.

 I would see it as strategy. Taking a base 100 miles deep in NME territory is a great tactic and a valid tactic at that. Its called a diversionary tactic. Its design is to draw the attention of the NME somewhere far from the main objective. This is exactly what was done several days before D-DAY. The allies were bombing one city (Forget which one it was) to make the Germans think they were going to invade there. When in Fact they were going to invade Normandy. Taking the attention off the main objective (Front Line horde Bases) temporarily is a good tactic in an arena with such large numbers crammed into sometimes 50 Sq. miles.. This is one tactic that actually spreads the players out a little.. Enter MugZ's tactic of  You cant say im not doing my part to disperse the horde.

[Tumor]

Mugz has a good point

  However...  

  You can split arena's up all you want.  What you get is an "MA" with the majority still going there because frankly, thats where there are more opportunities.  You get a "Fiter Arena" so to speak, and while it's nice to have, the numbers really make it less than what it could be (hard to explain).

  Nothing will ever stop the bad attitudes about this or that, until folks start looking in the mirror when they're lashing out blame.  I'm positive there is an abundance of mighty building battler's who run around porking fuel for no other reason than to be irritating.  ... so they want to be annoying .  I'm also positive there are a number "Fiter Hero's" who are in their own right annoying as they pay no attention whatsoever to the "big fite" as they whimp around on the edges cherry pickin those trying to be "strategic".  .... real hero's   Then you have the horde-warriors, bunching up like a herd of nervous chiuahua's gallantly attacking air and AI armed dirt thinking somehow they will earn some kind of bad-ass reputation.     Lets not forget those who pride themselves on their 3l1+3 $|<1ll$ when in in reality they long ago forgot this was a WW2 combat flight sim as opposed to a neat game having something to do with air and old planes   Many of us should stop considering ourselves hero's.... or at least stop trying to change things to make that end-state easier to obtain by firing off our cake-holes on ch1 (like anyone's gonna take ya seriously over a GAME anyway).  A little self-sacrifice never hurts, neither does a little pro-activeness (sp?).

  In other words... we've got what we've got, and it is good.  Who knew... Take 500 plus people who have a tendency to sit behind a computer for hours at a time anyway, putt'em in one spot and the atmosphere will inevitably get pissy.  Breaking up arena's has never made things any better.  But, FWIW... if it's not allot of trouble why not? lol

[Cobra412]

I use to do the whole land grabbing thing quite often.  Now I tend to lean more towards the fighter sweeps instead.  I think it's not the arena that is causing less fighter to fighter battles but the folks and how they fly.  

Some of us will fly out around the outskirts away from the massive hordes looking for an aerial battle.  I have to do it because I don't have a wingmen(s)to fly with.  That is what limits me from going into the areas where big missions are.  There would be no point of me going towards the massive dar bar because I'd pretty much be guaranteeing my own death.

I think you could have a fighter arena but instead of it being like the DA have it be more like the TA.  Keep the ground based stuff virtually indestrucable but keep the same small map.  The DA to me seems more like a TA layout.  You have the low, medium and high alt bases for training.  You have the bomb run area for exactly that bomb run training.  You have a miny gv training area in there also.  The only thing I could see that you'd need is just a general flying area to get use to basic flight maneuvers.  When I was in a squad we'd use the DA as a training arena opposed to the actual TA.  It gave us realistic damage just like the MA but it gave us the option to use different airframes at different alts for training.

[Furious]

All that running around and taking territory and avoiding conflict is great in the real world where actual lives are on the line.

...but, we play a game.  Avoiding combat in a combat simulator is silly.  

Also, I do not want to disperse the hordes, I want them to collide.  I want HUGE pitched battles, not a green horde milking undefended bases over here and red hordes milking base over there.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Furious
All that running around and taking territory and avoiding conflict is great in the real world where actual lives are on the line.

...but, we play a game.  Avoiding combat in a combat simulator is silly.  

Also, I do not want the disperse the hordes, I want them to collide.  I want HUGE pitched battles, not a green horde milking undefended bases over here and red hordes milking base over there.

So is that a Yes vote?

[kj714]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
We already have this.

Its called the DA and this scenario you are descibing takes plane nearly every night at A1 and A2.

yep, no kidding. If it was sooooo popular an idea, it would already be happening, because the structure is there for it, right now.

[kj714]

Originally posted by Mugzeee
Slo..i agree totaly
But the community has become clearly divided.

Everybody against the LTAR's. They'd like that.

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by Overlag
its the same as getting moaned at for flying buffs.......

if you want fighters only, GOTO DA

ENUFF SAID

[Morpheus]

Bring on the Fighter Town!!! all yous "Aces" Bring IT!!!!! And git the helll outa the MA for good. hehehehe

Which would leave what for the land grabbers? Killing their town and deacking a base? Oh wait here comes the good, the most exciting part of the whole chittin deal.

[Morpheus]

DUELING ARENA Ruels Of Engagment:

You honestly think those people who fly at A1 and A2 practice ROE? LMFAO

[Morpheus]

This seems to imply that we arent as smart as you.  

Well you sure as hell aren't. Not if you are going to talk this bullchit and expect me to take this crap you speak of as a fighter town seriously.

The same smartass you always were.

[TequilaChaser]

Hmm.....4 post back to back......

guess all the kids are experiencing family hour bout now around your area Morph


you finally able to be online with out the bog down