worthless planes

[JB73]

42 .. i know what you are talking about.

generally i see it only used in the scenmarios, and every time those dmn hurri's just twist away LOL.

in the MA you generally run up aginst different planes, and most knowing what a 202 is think "easy kill" then you have 4-5 all trying to "spank the newbie who doesnt know what plane he's in".

at least thats been my experiance in the MA. if you are lucky enough to avoid the horde, you can have some great fights in it... i had an awsome one with umm who was the P40 guy? Honch? it lasted like 4-5 minutes.

problem in the MA those are very few and far between, thats whay i made my comment.



WW,
though i understand your comments, i tend to disagree in the experiances i have had. but hey everyone has their own opinion.

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
P40 isn't  worthless, it provides a variety of choice for the people who like a challenge.  or like the historical aspect of the P40 models. ( YMMV )

 history my friend is something you might want to look up about this a/c because this type model as i understand saw action at the burma road and was flown by u.s. millitary volunteirs for china against the jap's before the u.s. entered the war and were considered to be obsolite agains current other models like the jap zero that could out turn and out climb the p40

you are right about one thing with this plane, the zero was supierior to the p40 but the pilots did find a way to over come this by superior thinking and knowing thier a/c better it seems then most jap's;)

but it still is too slow and can't turn, i'd have to say the only good this a/c is for in ah is too pork fields with and vulch, i dont remember too many times when a p40 has goten the better of me
and dont think it has a place in ah and could easily be replace by other better type models of ww2:aok

[Morpheus]

This thread is a POS.  Worthless.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by 68DevilM
why do we have worthless planes like the p40?

P40 is hardly worthless, I quite enjoy flying the P40 and as long as I keep my speed up and away from the Horde do rather well in it. Plus it has the ability to give people a nasty suprise.



...-Gixer

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
This thread is a POS.  Worthless.

anytime any where morph:rolleyes:

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by beet1e
LOL!  I often wonder that myself, especially as most will fly the P51/LA7/Spit übertrio no matter what new planes are introduced.

I guess the P40 is a piece of crap. Colonel F. Gabreski certainly thought so.

thats why i posted this thank you beet1e

[ALF]

Originally posted by (((Drum roll))) 68DevilM
why do we have worthless planes like the p40?

Could it be so you can have variety and challenge....or just to really chees off someone in a 262 (never done it in a P40...but Im 2-0 Spit MK I -vs-  262.....and it only to a 15 second burst:rofl

[kj714]

Originally posted by Karnak
I still remember a 202 flight from long ago.  I took off of Furball island on the NDIsles map to investigate a large clump of red dots heading south, just east of the island.  For some reason I grabbed a C.202....(edited for brevity).............200 feet at a speed of about 150mph.  At that speed, range and altitude he couldn't run without offering me a free kill, so he was twisting, rolling and turning as hard as he could in that F4U.  I was peppering him with shots, but I couldn't get a solid hit as he was moving too wildly.  After about a minute of this he finally lost it and spun into the ocean.

I only landed two kills, but I had a lot of fun stripping a B-17 formation of all of it's late war escorts with my lowly C.202.
 

Karnak has defined a good quality of the "lowly" planes. People just won't give up in an engagement with them, I guess it's a pride thing to want to kill them so bad, and not being able to let go when the tables turn. I fought a P-38 not too long ago that was a great fight, the nme just wouldn't give up on this twisting turning looping fight from about 10k all the way to the ground. The whole thing must of lasted 10 minutes and took place in a small area at furball island. We had reversals, snap shots by the bushel, I know I thought about my manuevers in that one fight more than any other fight I've been in, just because I was in a 202 and I knew I had to give it everything. In reality I just wanted to survive, it didn't occur to me until toward the end of the fight that I hadn't actually allowed him to score hardly any hits on me. In the end,  I had him down to one engine with the "death of a 1000 cuts", and some jack*** in 51D swooped in and splashed him from somewhere, probably thinking he was helping *me* out in my lowly 202, but what a great fight.

[Overlag]

he has a point though.... if everyone is flying THE BEST plane in AH, then the slow ones arnt going to get many kills... ive lost count how many times i got into a good fight with an La7/P51 and once i get on there 6 all they have to do is auto level and leave me standing.....

so im turning to flying p51s/la7s and g10s myself....dont want to but........

[simshell]

great pliots with good skill can win with planes like the P40 and many other old ones

dweebs cant win because they lack SA and jump into a LA7 and fly 450mph away from all the fights



very simple take 2 good P51D pliots and put them in P40's and you well find out who is the better pliot


die-ing to the Hord means you failed on SA

P40 is a unforgiving aircraft mistakes cant be made

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by 68DevilM
history my friend is something you might want to look up about this a/c because this type model as i understand saw action at the burma road and was flown by u.s. millitary volunteirs for china against the jap's before the u.s. entered the war and were considered to be obsolite agains current other models like the jap zero that could out turn and out climb the p40

you are right about one thing with this plane, the zero was supierior to the p40 but the pilots did find a way to over come this by superior thinking and knowing thier a/c better it seems then most jap's;)

Why you think I haven't looked up history already? DevilM.

 I have read

I love the book of baa baa black sheep, and how the AVG and Flying Tigers came about and what they flew etc etc

to me that is what I meant when I said the " Historical Aspect of The P-40" and as I said, it provides variety and a CHALLENGE. I am not  trying to be negative toward you I am simply answering your question why we have them. and why they are not worthless.

[SunKing]

Originally posted by 68DevilM
why do we have worthless planes like the p40?

WHAT! you gotta try it. Get a kill and you'll see the addiction/fun in schooling the late war hordes in the early planes.

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by 68DevilM
anytime any where morph:rolleyes:

What are you saying here Devil?

You wish to duel me? lol

Well sure if thats what you want. Somehow I think thats what you meant.

[Morpheus]

Oh and btw.

The P40 as worthless as you may think is actually a real joy to fly. The E mod has great guns turns quite well and although its not the fastest plane in the game its not the slowest.

If you are in an out numberd area and dont manage your E you are as dead as can be. Hence E management is learned quite quickly here with the P40 and the value there of.

[Stang]

What???? What???? Worthless?  LMAO!  Fly  it then talk!