need help BAD with views and sidewinder PP

[Yeager]

Has anyone figured out a way to make the sidewinder precision pro work with the AH view system?  As nice as the view system in AH is, its not worth a toejam with my SWPP in combat.  First, I have assigned the up key to a button but when I press the button and pan I only get the forward, left, right and back views in 45 degrees.  I really need the Forward L, Forward R, Back L and Back R views to get the 360 field of view.

I am aware that some people have managed to create a stick file that doesnt use the sidewinder control panel but I want to use the control panel.  I really like the way the SWPP works in all other regards but I am frustrated with the view system.

To sound like a broken record, the view system in Warbirds worked exceptionally well for me but here I am struggling over and over with a better view system in AH.

There sould be some work around.  Can someone give me the same capability to use sticksets 1 and 2 assigned to level views and 45 degree views at the press of a single, well placed button?

Am I toejam out of luck?

Up the creek without a paddle?

FUBARd'?

Yeager

[Brethon]

I use the SWPP, and although I haven't tried...; try mapping the #pad 45degree veiw keys to buttons A,B,C, and D on the stick.  If that doesn't work, I don't know.  Hope it helps  

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"Do unto others....and get your head blown off." -Brethon

[rosco-]

 Here is what I do.
 
 I map the hat to the view's on the numpad. Hat forward is mapped to 8 and 5, "forward and up" had left to the 6 key, etc etc. I map the C key to numpad 5 for up views.
 For head movment I use the profiling software that came with my pre pro, using the shift key to do so. SO...Shift and the 2 buttons next to the hat move your head up and down. shift and the base buttons move your head in and out, up and down. I find it works ok. Its not perfect, you cant move your head while looking up, and its hard to move your head up and down and use the hat,  but you can move your head side to side, in and out while using the 8 normal views. Of course, if up and down is important you could switch the 2 keys next to the hat with  in and out and put up and down on the base buttons. I like mine the way it is.

IF you want to try it email me and Ill send you my profile to try out.


[This message has been edited by rosco- (edited 01-07-2000).]

[leonid]

Yeager,
Here's what I do:

o Go into AH keyboard setup and set numkeypad '/' to 'forward', and numkeypad '8'to 'forward & up'.
o Go into AH joystick setup.  I found that the PP Shift button is interpreted as button #10, so I set #10 to 'view: up'.
o Go into SW PP profile and set hat to the num keypad, flicking the hat forward being assigned keypad '8' (forward & up).
o I also set the A,B,C & D buttons to aileron & elevator trim while in the Profiler.

What this allows me to do is:
1) flick the hat forward to see forward and up.
2) press & hold the SW/PP Shift button plus flick the hat for any 'up' views in any direction.  Releasing the Shift button returns the hat views to level.
3) use the A,B,C and D buttons for instantaneous trim.

If you want the profile send me email  


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leonid, aka grisha
129 IAP VVS RKKA

[Dinger]

Umm...
I use a SW PP, and had the same problem when AH first came out and didn't have 8-way hat support.  If you recall, when the fix stick settings, your custom ones won't fix themselves.
Try remapping all the view keys on the hat, they now support "Hat 1 DN, DL, DR, UP,UL,UR, L and R".
FWIW, I have the B key set to look up, and the shift key to look down, and Hat 1 UP to stick my nose in the gunsight.  I get 27 views that way.

[TT]

 I gave up on it yeager. I think HT once said because of the way the view system works in AH, they wont be able to set up a WB type stick set system. Views are so important that I set my stick up in AH. I have all my buttons devoted to trims. I started useing the keyboard for everything. Flaps,Radar, brakes, soforth.

[Oldfella]

Yeager: email me at knowles@internorth.com
and I'll send you my global.kmp and view.kmp
I'm using a Ms ff Pro but the buttons are the
same.

[Oldfella]

Sorry gave you my old email.
Correct one is knowles@nt.sympatico.ca
 

[v355_Spike]

Disreguard this post,as I pulled my head outta my 6, with lenoid's assistence, roflamo!
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SgtSpike
v355 Fighter Group
Steeple Morden Strafers




[This message has been edited by v355_Spike (edited 01-09-2000).]

[PropNut]

I agree with Rosco  ....I use the sidewinder profiler program that came with your stick, it works perfectly .  I have never had to map any keys in AH  just set up the profiler program.  I had 8 way views since the first AH version with this system  if you want a copy of my profile just e-mail me   Mirach2@hotmail.com

[v355_Spike]

Rgr that, MSPP software works perfectly for me, 8way hat was never a prob.

My prob was how to get those 8 views plus the 8 up views controled by the stick, without using the keyboard. Now my pro is basically a 9 button joystice, but i got 16 views, love it.

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SgtSpike
v355 Fighter Group
Steeple Morden Strafers

[K-KEN]

I have the OLD MSFF stick!  I only have the 4 views.  I use the # keypad for up and other views.  However, I think my Profiler differs from the others.  I would like 8 views, but I dont want to sacrifice other function keys to view/see.  The 3, 6, 9, and 12 views are all I have.  By Pressing the 5 key, I double my views.  I might try som of these other ideas.  But all of my keys are full here.  This SIM is kinda....different! <g>
KKEN

[v355_Spike]

Good Luck Ken, LOL! Roger That, this sim is wayyyyy  different, know how ya feel.

It's been along time since i had the 3dPro stick. Have you been to the Sidewinder Site lately and made sure ya got the latest drivers? Maybe your stuck with 4 views, dunno.

 http://www.microsoft.com/sidewinder/default.htm

Before I figured out how to make my shift button work for the up command, I remaped my up command to the Tilde key using the game software. Was alot more convienent for me to use as I'm right handed, hehe.



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SgtSpike
v355 Fighter Group
Steeple Morden Strafers

[rosco-]

 Ken, either your older stick is totally different or its the drivers you are using, but you should be able to map all 8 views on the hat and be able to map the numpad 5 key to a single button on the stick for up views, making all 16 views available without using the keyboard. I have an old 3Dpro that works EXACTLY like my new precision pro, "view wise" The hat is 8 way and you should be able to map the hat to all 8 views, in either the game or the profiling software. The big advantage of the profiling software is that I transform my stick from an 8 button to a 16  button using the shift key on my precision pro, something that the 3D pro doesnt have. For me everything works like it did in WB's. If you can get all 16 views in WB's I cant understand why not in AH.

[leonid]

Yeager,
Did you get my email with the attached profile?


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leonid, aka grisha
129 IAP VVS RKKA